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Thread: Myanmar's treatment of the Rohingya

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    Live feed from the UNSC meeting on Burma:

    http://webtv.un.org/live-now/watch/s.../5579806351001
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    Interesting thread and articles:

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    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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    Not fit for purpose.
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    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Not fit for purpose.
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    http://nationalpost.com/news/york-un...s-rape-reports

    Couldn't decide whether to put this in the academic thread or this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    http://nationalpost.com/news/york-un...s-rape-reports

    Couldn't decide whether to put this in the academic thread or this one.
    Well, no one's actually trying to silence this professor who so very clearly decided their conclusion before ever looking at things, so I'd say this was probably the right place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleFuzzy View Post
    Well, no one's actually trying to silence this professor who so very clearly decided their conclusion before ever looking at things, so I'd say this was probably the right place.
    Wouldn't be the worst idea given that this is within her research area.
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    Been following her arguments on Twitter since that article came out. I can't believe she gets to teach at the University level. Her defense against the allegations of ethnic cleansing is that there are still Muslims in Burma.
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    Wow so that's the standard now?

    Shocking.
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    There've been a number of developments in the past couple of weeks, but other than the recent shaming of the UNSC this may be the most interesting:

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    Positive news? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42094060

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    Permanent peacekeeping force required.
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    Credible evidence of five mass-graves that have not been reported by established news sources previously:

    https://apnews.com/ef46719c5d1d4bf98cfefcc4031a5434

    In the videos of the graves obtained by the AP, dating to 13 days after the killing began, blue-green puddles of acid sludge surround corpses without heads and torsos that jut into the air. Skeletal hands seem to claw at the ground.

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    Survivors said that the soldiers carefully planned the Aug. 27 attack, and then deliberately tried to hide what they had done. They came to the slaughter armed not only with rifles, knives, rocket launchers and grenades, but also with shovels to dig pits and acid to burn away faces and hands so that the bodies could not be identified. Two days before the attack, villagers say, soldiers were seen buying 12 large containers of acid at a nearby village’s market.

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    Sha hid in a grove of coconut trees near the river with more than 100 others and watched as the soldiers searched Muslim homes. Dozens of Buddhists from neighboring villages, their faces partly covered with scarves, loaded the possessions they found into about 10 pushcarts. Then the soldiers burned down the homes, shooting anyone who couldn’t flee, Sha said.

    Buddhist villagers then moved through Gu Dar Pyin in a sort of mopping-up operation, using knives to cut the throats of the injured, survivors said, and working with soldiers to throw small children and the elderly into the fires.

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    Kadir, the chinlone player, was shot twice in the foot but managed to drag himself under a bridge, where he removed one of the bullets himself. Then he watched, half-delirious, for 16 hours as soldiers, police and Buddhist neighbors killed unarmed Rohingya and burned the village.

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    For days, Rohingya from the area stole into Gu Dar Pyin and rescued people who’d been left for dead by the soldiers. Thousands of people from the area hid deep in the jungle, stranded without food except for the leaves and trees they tried to eat. More than 20 infants and toddlers died because of the lack of food and water, villagers said.

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    In the next days and weeks, other villagers braved the soldiers to try to find whatever was left of their loved ones. Dozens of bodies littered the paths and compounds of the wrecked homes; they filled latrine pits. The survivors soon learned that taller, darker green patches of rice shoots in the paddies marked the spots where the dead had fallen.

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    As monsoon rains pounded the sometimes thin layer of dirt on the graves to mud, more bloated bodies began to rise to the surface.

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    He estimates that soldiers dumped about 80 bodies into his family’s pond and about 20 in each of the other four major graves. He said about 150 other bodies were left where they fell.

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    After 12 days, Younus went to try to find four family members who’d been killed. He saw people in the graves without hair or skin who he thought had been burned with acid, and dozens of decomposing bodies in the rice fields.

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    The next day, on Sept. 9, villager Mohammad Karim, 26, captured three videos of mass graves that were time-stamped between 10:12 a.m. and 10:14 a.m., when he said soldiers chased him away. When he fled to Bangladesh, Karim removed the memory card from his phone, wrapped it in plastic and tied it to his thigh to hide it from Myanmar police.

    The videos show what appear to be bones wrapped in rotting clothing in a soupy muck. In one, the hands of a headless corpse grasp at the earth; most of the skin seems melted away by acid that has stained the earth blue. Nearby are two bloated legs clad in shorts. A few paces away, the bones of a rib cage emerge from the dirt.
    This is what attempted genocide looks like. And it seems it still sounds like nothing but a deafening silence. Crickets at the UN. Crickets in Brussels. Still no sanctions. Still no referral to the ICC. Still not enough aid for those who've fled and still no clear action from the international community to protect those refugees from the threat of forced repatriation to Burma, where the govt. is preparing new concentration camps to receive them.
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    This is the story the two Reuters reporters who were arrested--and are still being held without bail--were working on:

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates...akhine-events/

    Atrocities, clear violations of human rights law, perpetrated by military, police and local civilians. Rohingya who tried to use smartphones to document crimes targeted for execution.
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