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    You are not a bit better with your ludicrous demands to drop the backstop which was a bloody British suggestion.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    And that was plan B. Anything better you want to suggest?
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    Hope is the denial of reality

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    It's not going to happen anyway. The second referendum becomes more likely every single day. And I think that is a bad thing because there is no reason to assume that a slim win by remain will be the end of this.
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    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    Of course it wouldn't be and we would be left inside the tent pissing in more than ever before if it came to that. That's in nobodies interests that I can see.
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    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

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    So that rat Dyson isn't moving the seat of the company to Singapore because of Brexit. It's also pure coincidence that he sets up shop in a place with a comprehensive series of trade deals with the EU.
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    Oops. Lithuania seems adverse to delaying Brexit.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    How's that an oops? The UK is adverse to delaying Brexit.
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    Ooooh things like this might hurt a bit, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...rexit-60590562. Stiff upper lip, eh.
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    More of the same old project fear bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    More of the same old project fear bullshit.
    You lot seem to think that everybody pointing out some negative effect of Brexit is on the central payroll of some deep state organization. However, there is no project fear. These are people who know their field of business who simply have calculated the risks.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    More of the same old project fear bullshit.
    Why do you think they're saying such a thing?

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    These are people who know their field of business who simply have calculated the risks.
    Precisely.

    The cost for Airbus of doing business rises post-Brexit. They don't want that to happen, no business wants their costs to rise, so they are doing what they can to prevent/limit/mitigate that rise in costs. As such that involves extending a measure of influence for obtaining a better deal by speaking out publicly like this. If that influence amounts to nothing as it likely will with the hashtagprojectfear circus clowning around, then if the cost of moving their entire UK-based operation is less than the costs imposed by higher operating costs keeping the operation in the UK post-Brexit then that is what they will do.

    Speaking out is not project fear, it's project reality. As it is for all businesses facing a cost increase post- Brexit.

    Or are Brexiteers suggesting that all businesses should just put up and shut up and do nothing to mitigate and/or plan for future cost increase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Precisely.

    The cost for Airbus of doing business rises post-Brexit. They don't want that to happen, no business wants their costs to rise, so they are doing what they can to prevent/limit/mitigate that rise in costs. As such that involves extending a measure of influence for obtaining a better deal by speaking out publicly like this. If that influence amounts to nothing as it likely will with the hashtagprojectfear circus clowning around, then if the cost of moving their entire UK-based operation is less than the costs imposed by higher operating costs keeping the operation in the UK post-Brexit then that is what they will do.

    Speaking out is not project fear, it's project reality. As it is for all businesses facing a cost increase post- Brexit.

    Or are Brexiteers suggesting that all businesses should just put up and shut up and do nothing to mitigate and/or plan for future cost increase?
    Erm, isn't it more likely that businesses are part of an orchestrated elite conspiracy to keep us in the EU for their own personal gain, and to screw the hard working people of our once great nation?

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    It's amazing how much the Tories hate corporate Britain.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    Not corporate, corporatist.
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    Newspeak. Seems like Brexiteers thought 1984 was a manual rather than a cautionary tale.
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    Some news to cheer up RandBlade: from Monday the EMA will be doing business from Amsterdam.

    In the meantime the British position in the authorization process of new drugs has collapsed.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    What in the actual fuck?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eu-and-join-uk

    I mean, yes, it's a theoretical possibility but to actually open your mouth as a politician and letting this garbage proposal fall out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khendraja'aro View Post
    What in the actual fuck?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eu-and-join-uk

    I mean, yes, it's a theoretical possibility but to actually open your mouth as a politician and letting this garbage proposal fall out?
    John Humphreys? WTF.
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    Well, the BBC has tradition. They consistently give a podium to the real crazies.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    John Humphreys isn't a crazy. I mean, he's kind of an ass who is Bad At Interviewing Politicians but think's he's great at it. But he's about as mainstream a journalist as it's possible to be.
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    In short, for the murders of those I court, I bless the hour that holds your fall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    John Humphrey's isn't a crazy. I mean, he's kind of an ass who is Bad At Interviewing Politicians but think's he's great at it. But he's about as mainstream a journalist as it's possible to be.
    The problem at his workplace is though that they think that balanced means crazy needs to get a shot at being heard too.

    I for my part don’t think any debate wins by giving a platform to pathological liars who could not find their own asses if they weren’t handed to them first. Is there any chance for example that the average Brit TV watcher got better informed about the EU by having Nigel Farage on QT more than anyone else besides Dimbleby? If they couldn’t see him for the liar he is shouldn’t the fact that he rented his own office space to himself in order to fraudulently claim benefits from the EP have disqualified him as the voice for any cause ?
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    John Humphreys doesn't work on QT. Do you think all the BBC current affairs programs share the same office space or something?
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    I will come reformed
    In short, for the murders of those I court, I bless the hour that holds your fall
    I will kill you all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    John Humphreys doesn't work on QT. Do you think all the BBC current affairs programs share the same office space or something?
    No, I think they share the same ludicrous policy on ‘balance’ meaning that they think they are balancing expert opinion by showing what the crazies think about it.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    Humphrys being mainstream is kind of the thing. The BBC's editorial policy, or what can be discerned of a presumed editorial policy, appears to have embraced—and mainstreamed—a borderline crazy approach to Brexit commentary, where uninformed—and, in the case of Farage, detestable—actors are given more space and more freedom than knowledgeable experts, leading to a massive imbalance in favor of eg. Brexiter myths about trade rules. That being said, there are differences in opinion and policy, and I was glad to hear BBC5, for example, spend some time discussing these issues with Dmitry Grozoubinsky:

    https://m.soundcloud.com/dmitry-groz...iends-bbc5live


    McEntee did very well in the interview with Humphrys:



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    Correct me if I am wrong; now ERG doesn't allow May to re-negotiate the backstop which they want to be re-negotiated out of the withdrawal agreement?

    Sorry guys, but this seems like a club of borderliners having an episode.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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