You do realize that there are several other countries to consider, yes? While Merkel certainly holds a position of power, it's not absolute power. And she's also smart enough to not let you get away with cherry picking.Originally Posted by RandBlade
Basically, she's actually the worst kind of opponent you can have at the negotiation table.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
You're delusional. No other word for it.
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There's a term for the glitch you're exhibiting here: Lewkowskianism. Please read the entire article you linked to.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I read the article. It’s very obvious he didn’t.
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The article was behind a paywall. I've just read a copy of the full article now and ok I screwed up that one. Context matters and yeah ... Ok I'll put my hands up that was taken out of context.
At the time though people were speaking like that and that seemed familiar. Could have chosen a better link to make my point but ... Nevermind.
Sorry.
At the time the case for Rotterdam was clear, and it was only the peculiar voting rules in the UK that stopped the move. But either way the case being made was that the 'other half' would not be worse off by the new unitary structure.
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Oops, Mutti tells the other members to get ready for no deal. Guess she's not so certain she's going to be able to save you lot from your own idiocy.
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We'll see. There'll be much brinkmanship over the next few months but if the EU are taking the idea of no deal seriously that is a good thing. It was never taken seriously under May who was always going to fold like a cheap suit.
I am probably misremembering things then with the Netherlands massively stocking up on duty agents in their harbours in preparation for a possible No Deal. And similar stuff. I'm probably also similarly mistaken in remembering that it was the UK who approached the whole endeavour with a rather nonchalant air.
The latter hasn't changed much, though.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
900 customs officers and 150 veterinarian hired in the last year. Many of the latter from eastern Europe.
Our specialists say that they estimate that the British should have hired and trained at least double those numbers already.
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Nonsense. There's not going to be any softening on state aid at all. If anything the EU will be more demanding rather than less.
Assuming that not walking away from the talks means that the UK is going to get what it wants is for the birds.
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I am becoming more and more a supporter of a no-deal scenario for phase II of Brexit; the departure of the UK from the SM and CU. With the utter lack of preparations for a hard exit on the British side and the inability to take control such a scenario would mean that EU-UK trade would be subject to 'British' non-existant rules, so basically no rules at all for EU companies. The other way round, UK-EU trade would be subject to WTO rules (in essence our rules), and our side being entirely capable of controling it. It would be an incredible advantage for the EU for a good while, at least untill the Brits get their act together.
If we continue to negotiate any agreement with the EU, the disadvantage bearing on the Brits will be so heavy that this can only be in the interest of the EU.
No-deal
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US has much lower food standards than Europe. It has been feared since Brexit that prioritising trade deals with the US may mean bowing to their pressure on accepting food imports of a lower standard in concessions to obtaining a more acceptable trade deal.
So much for Angela coming to your rescue, Rand. Told you so.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-to-eu-brexit
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Improve your reading comprehension. I told you so.
“We need to let go of the idea that it is for us to define what Britain should want,” Merkel said in a wide-ranging interview with a small group of European newspapers, including the Guardian. “That is for Britain to define – and we, the EU27, will respond appropriately.”
And it means; we have more important things to do than try to talk sense into De Pfeffel. Basically she declared the negotiations for ended. There will be no agreement or something that barely merits the bother.
Time to get ready for reality Randy. Or as you call it 'project fear'.
Last edited by Hazir; 06-26-2020 at 09:55 PM.
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No it means reality is dawning that Brexit doesn't mean the EU writes Britain's rules.
It means Brexit Begins.
Dude, here are your own words:
Merkel just said: "Tough cookies." But nice to see that you're not only incapable of understanding your own language, you also have the memory span of a goldfish.
You really do not understand how to parse the meaning behind words, right?
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
FYI: it means that you make your own rules in Great Britain and are subject to the rules of others outside of Great Britain. Outside of your country your rules count for nothing. One of the places where your rules don't count is the EU.
And that means that you have a choice between losing your biggest market or accepting our rules.
Brexit is just a fantastic project built on lies. Thank God you already left
Last edited by Hazir; 06-27-2020 at 10:28 AM.
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No she hasn't. She has said that the idea of the EU keeping things the same is over, which is what I want.
She has said she will respond to UK choices. That is all I ever wanted. Acknowledgement of our choices and move forwards. Merkel will negotiate as part of the "response" she talks about.
No it doesn't. It means our own rules apply nationally and if an exporter wants to trade with you they use the relevant elements of your rules as part of their specs.
Just as the Chinese and everyone else who exports to you already do. Your rules don't mean squat outside your own area, as it should be.
For everyone with a whiff of common sense thar means that our rules apply. Six months and a couple of days you will learn what taking control means.
Hint: it's not what you think it is.
You're also not China.
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No your rules won't apply.
We aren't China you're right we are better than that.
Sir, you are not even better than California.
Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
You don't understand what she actually said: Your choices now solely determine the outcome, as in: We will not move an inch anymore.
Learn to read between the lines - you cannot take everything literally, especially in politics. I've told you this before.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
No she has said she will move in that. She has to move.
She has to do nothing of the sort. What's more, she's been saying the same thing since she first met May. The only new thing is that she added that Brexit has consequences.
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You still do not understand what she actually said: She said that there will be consequences for what the UK decides. This means that the ball for getting a deal is now fully in your court. Because we'll have a look at your decision and then decide what we'll offer you on that basis. There will be no more compromises. We told you what we need from you. If you are unwilling to grant that then so be it.
That is what she said.
You're no more than an afterthought now. We've got different priorities than catering to your whims. You'll see that. You're still massively deluding yourself, the tail does not wag the dog.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
The level of self delusion is amazing. She all but says the talks are over, and he thinks it’s a concession.
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