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  1. #5671
    Saying its the most popular newspaper in the UK today is like talking about the most popular sunscreen in the UK (for January only).

    Most popular of nothing is still nothing. Do you think the Dail Fail readership is 50% of the country? 40%? 30? 20? 10? 5?

    No, its readership is well below 2% of country. Even the Lib Dems can get more than 2%.
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  2. #5672
    I'd wager we'd still be in the EU if the DM hadn't have spent the last 40 years slagging it off.

  3. #5673
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Saying its the most popular newspaper in the UK today is like talking about the most popular sunscreen in the UK (for January only).

    Most popular of nothing is still nothing. Do you think the Dail Fail readership is 50% of the country? 40%? 30? 20? 10? 5?

    No, its readership is well below 2% of country. Even the Lib Dems can get more than 2%.
    I understand how you've arrived at this number, and it's wrong. The 2% figure applies to print circulation, not to readership, which is almost certainly higher. It also does not reflect influence. Finally, it offers a very narrow picture in a world where much—or most—news is consumed on connected devices; the Mail has roughly 375 million visitors a month, 40% of which are in the UK. In 2020, it was the 10th most visited website for users in the UK.
    Last edited by Aimless; 01-12-2021 at 05:45 PM.
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    375 visitors a month isn't a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    375 visitors a month isn't a lot
    It is if they read a million articles each
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  6. #5676
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    I understand how you've arrived at this number, and it's wrong. The 2% figure applies to print circulation, not to readership, which is almost certainly higher. It also does not reflect influence. Finally, it offers a very narrow picture in a world where much—or most—news is consumed on connected devices; the Mail has roughly 375 million visitors a month, 40% of which are in the UK. In 2020, it was the 10th most visited website for users in the UK.
    That is a different metric. Tenth most visited website if it were actually true is far, far more interesting and relevant in the year 2021 than the most popular newspaper.

    Although I'm curious where you got the 10th from. Any listing I've seen puts them much, much lower. This one from Alexa rankings puts them 31st. For reference that is below the Guardian, Roblox, Sportsbible and Pornhub as other examples. https://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/GB

    According to this top 20, the Daily Mail isn't in the Top 20: https://www.lexiconnect.co.uk/top-20-uk-websites.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    That is a different metric. Tenth most visited website if it were actually true is far, far more interesting and relevant in the year 2021 than the most popular newspaper.
    It's not all that different; most newspapers are now read online, so any assessment of a newspaper's readership must include online visitors. Suffice to say the print circulation is the least informative metric if you're interested in readership.

    Although I'm curious where you got the 10th from. Any listing I've seen puts them much, much lower. This one from Alexa rankings puts them 31st. For reference that is below the Guardian, Roblox, Sportsbible and Pornhub as other examples. https://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/GB

    According to this top 20, the Daily Mail isn't in the Top 20: https://www.lexiconnect.co.uk/top-20-uk-websites.html
    https://www.theukdomain.uk/top-100-websites-of-2020/
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  8. #5678
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    It's not all that different; most newspapers are now read online, so any assessment of a newspaper's readership must include online visitors. Suffice to say the print circulation is the least informative metric if you're interested in readership.
    I completely agree it is the least informative, which is why I said it was a nonsense metric to be bringing up. Bringing up online traffic is much more logical.

    Your ranking list is quite different to other ones but shows the Mail as a fraction of eg Facebook etc and closer to the Guardian (which other rankings put it beneath). But its worth remembering the Mail's website is rather different to the paper. The paper's frontpage and basis operates primarily on outrage and being contrarian - the website dominates with celebrity gossip and clickbait. I'd be curious how many people actually get their news from that site rather than other sources.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  9. #5679
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Saying its the most popular newspaper in the UK today is like talking about the most popular sunscreen in the UK (for January only).

    Most popular of nothing is still nothing. Do you think the Dail Fail readership is 50% of the country? 40%? 30? 20? 10? 5?

    No, its readership is well below 2% of country. Even the Lib Dems can get more than 2%.
    You're talking print media?

    What is this, 1995?
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    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  10. #5680
    Well that was my point. Other websites are more popular, depending upon the rankings used. According to Alexa rankings the Guardian even is ahead of the Daily Mail.

    If it was the most popular website, or even news website, then that would be more significant.
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    It's still a pretty popular one, and especially since you mention they specialize in clickbait, they presumably get shared a fair bit. Anecdotal, but I certainly regularly see headlines from them, while it's definitely not something I'd look for myself.

    Edit: though less often than news sites I do actually use. Not sure how Google's algorithms work.
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  12. #5682
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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  13. #5683
    While there are some teething issues take with a pinch of salt anything Scottish.
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  14. #5684
    Yes, you have made your Little Englander distrust of people with accents abundantly clear already, no need to repeat yourself.
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  15. #5685
    Yes that's it.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  16. #5686
    What the Scottish project fear brigade fail to understand is that the fish are now happier being British.

  17. #5687
    Really sad to hear about the Welsh sea critters too.
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  18. #5688
    Quote Originally Posted by gogobongopop View Post
    What the Scottish project fear brigade fail to understand is that the fish are now happier being British.
    They probably are actually if there's not as many trawlers about.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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