Thankfully we don't listen to those guys anymore. We listen to the Daily Mail, Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage insteadOriginally Posted by Ominous Gamer
Thankfully we don't listen to those guys anymore. We listen to the Daily Mail, Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage instead
I've been browsing through the sectoral "analyses" and holy fuck are they bad. Accordingly, they're being trashed by experts in the sectors in question. I can see why the govt. wanted to keep them secret, whether due to strategy or due to shame.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Link for the lazy?
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Just read today that the Breximaniacs idea of getting to provide financial services to the EU without also being a member of the single market is something they can go fuck right off with.
Because every deal the EU has with other 3rd party countries is very light on financial services to the point of non-existance. This in turn means that if the EU made a deal with the UK which allowed such services, they'd automatically also have to give the other countries this opportunity as well. Without recompensation and adjustments on the existing deals with said other countries.
In summary: To give the UK what they want we'd also have to give up quite a bit to other countries for free.
Not happening.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
That's not the way trade deals work. Do you have to give the Canadians who are not in the EEA the precise same deal automatically that you give to the Swiss who are also not in the EEA? No you don't.
As for financial services being included in a trade deal, that was proposed years ago by none other than Michael Barnier who at the time was the Commissioner responsible and earned financial services to be included in the TTIP trade deal.
RB, the latest agreements have strong MFN clauses that mean that later deals with third countries that are more generous in those areas covered by MFN clauses will automatically require the EU to offer the same benefits to those who came before. The EEA agreement and most of the bilateral agreements with Switzerland predate the deals with Canada, Japan and South Korea. If the Swiss agreements had contained similar MFN clauses, then it's possible that the EU's subsequent deals with other countries would have modified the deals with Switzerland.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7662601.html
OMFG THIS COUNTRY IS SUCH A FRICKING JOKE
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Exactly that. Rand may want to look up the term "Most Favoured Nation" and why exactly it'll mean "No financial service deal" for the UK outside the single market.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
So the current contract for passports expires in 2019 and the government has started a tendering process for a new contract starting in 2019. Yeah such a joke.
Not what Barnier was saying in the past.
This was in reference to the TTIP, not a deal with the UK, and the comment was made in 2014, by a single official.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The same official who is now leading Brexit negotiations ...
That same official has to consider the EU's wishes and interests as well as take into account the deals the EU has concluded since the TTIP negotiations. Do you believe the UK has the same clout as the US did in this matter?
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
But sure, if you want to learn from the example of the TTIP I guess you can take a look at how the discussion about financial services played out.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Yes.
Logically, then, the EU will have the clout of a super-US. Please revisit the debate about financial services that was such a major obstacle for TTIP.
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Why would it?
The debate about financial services that was such a major obstacle for TTIP was intransigence over co-operation, not a refusal to countenance making a deal.
Still wondering why starting a tender for a new contract to begin at the time the existing contract expires makes anyone a joke. Seems to me to be best practice but you're clearly seeing something pernicious in the idea of having a new contract in place for when the old one runs out.
And this, dear friends, is a perfect example of how divorced from reality your typical Brexidiot has become.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Reality is on my side.
London is not just Europe's but the world's leading global financial centre, ahead of New-York, Singapore, Hong-Kong and Tokyo.
What's laughable is that these closet kippers are going on about the color of the British passport as if someone had prevented the UK from using blue passports.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
So? The northern Swedish town of Piteå is the world's leading producer of pitepalt. The EU took a firm stance on financial services in its negotiations with the US and it will likely take a similar position in negotiations with the UK, likely requiring greater concessions than it required from the US. The UK will not get a better deal, in this matter, than eg. Canada, South Korea and Japan. Not from a new FTA and not from a series of limited bilateral agreements.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Indeed it's much ado about nothing but the cost to the tax payer of changing the colour is a grand sum of zero pounds and zero pence. So why do you care?
If a deal was being made on pitepalt specifically then it would make sense to take the Swedes especially into account then. The EU took a firm stance that cooperation would be necessary, if we agree to cooperate then that shouldn't be an insurmountable hurdle.
I mean, they might, but not without some serious concessions.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Hence why Barnier is talking tough at the opening of negotiations. He knows full well that a deal is possible but he is also seeking concessions. Why give us what we want right now at the onset of talks when you can get something for that right instead?
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/...-a8126751.html
Easiest way to tell if a Tory MP is lying is to check if his lips are moving.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8126381.html
Yay for independence and sovereignty, I guess?The blue colour was actually a foreign imposition, originating in guidance issued by the League of Nations in 1920, and the UK has introduced some biometric features to comply with American visa waiver requirements.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
It's funny seeing people lose their minds over a simple change of colour. It's bread and circuses so why do you care?
I personally don't care, but the hysteria about it over the last few days probably originates from the fact that it's the second most important thing to brexiteers once we leave the EU.
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