You're really dumber than a box of rocks. Norway has their house in order, financially and politically.
You people? Not so much.
You're really dumber than a box of rocks. Norway has their house in order, financially and politically.
You people? Not so much.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Stop talking to the mirror. I keep bringing facts from the real world into the conversation and are just drowning flailing around casting aspersions, insults, swearing and not making any factual remarks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway...pinion_polling
Polls aren't entirely reliable but in the most recent poll Norwegians go against prospective European Union membership with just 16% in favour and 66% against. It was your idea to ask them but it doesn't support your case.
I can't believe you're comparing the British pre-rebate contribution per capita with the net Norwegian contribution per capita.
Congratulations America
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/...vital-nhs-jobs
Five year plan at work.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Care to tell us how this lofty goal of openness to the world is going to work out in practise? I'm sure 1.5bn people from the Indian subcontinent will be very interested in how you combine your taking back of control of your borders with being open to the entire world.
Congratulations America
We should create sane, simplified and clear rules such that a Psychiatrist from eg India is not discriminated against w.r.t. the equivalent or less talented from eg Romania. 93% of the world's population is outside of the EU so discriminating heavily against them but allowing free movement from the 7% of primarily white Europeans is not a healthy solution.
I wrote about this two years ago.
I don't see why proximity is an issue no. I grew up in a nation with a 26 hour flight time (actual time longer as the distance was so far you couldn't fly direct in those days). Would I discriminate against those 26 hour flight away? Absolutely not!
However even if we went off proximity we are closer to Morocco than we are to Romania or other very Eastern nations, so why are we giving favours to them over the others?
Your second question is confusing. If it's what you mean then I don't view treating citizens differently to non-citizens as discriminatory. I do view having a terrible migration system for 93% of the globe to be discriminatory and we need to fix that not mask it by having a terribly difficult one for 93% and no system at all for 7%.
And meanwhile you treat the people who are already there like crap.
Good job.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
On the day the EU decided what it expects from Brexit Britain in all of 2 minutes, ms May (actual PM of the United Kingdom) is being made fun of by Ms Merkel (acting Bundeskanzlerin of Germany) for not telling what she wants. But that seems a bit harsh to me as ms May is heading a cabinet at war with itself when it tries to explain what Brexit actually is. In the EU we have a simple way of saying it; Brexit is Brexit.
Congratulations America
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ghter-in-egypt
Working hard on solving the NHS crisis, I see.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
I must say I was a bit amused when the Guardian liveblog on Brexit switched away from Davis telling what he thought about Brexit at the House of Lords Brexit committee to Barnier in Brussels. It got even funnier when I read that Davis wanted a right to object to new EU legislation which simultaneously was shot down in Brussels.
Congratulations America
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
This is the government's analysis that it does not want to make public out of embarrassment. It shows the government's best estimate right now. If forecasts are as good as looking at entrails, why is the government wasting limited resources on them?
You know as well as I do that the forecasts are conditional and, so long as the conditions are not met, they are not applicable. They do however give an indication of beliefs about reality. Even when they aren't accurate, they can suggest the magnitude of the effect of a particular decision, and the direction of travel.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Congratulations America
OH, you mean those based on the lie that article 50 would be triggered the day after the referendum? You know, that's the problem with forecasting; if politicians do not even attempt to look as if they're saying the truth it becomes very hard to tell what the likely outcome of their actions will be.
But this time it's not politicians talking, it's your Civil Service crunching the numbers. And coming to the conclusion that this whole Brexit nonsense is going to cost you between 50bn and 200bn a year. And given that your PM is still talking nonsense about deals we won't talk about it seems very likely that it's gonna be a whole lot closer to the latter figure.
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Congratulations America
https://www.ft.com/content/7f7669a4-...0-9c0ad2d7c5b5
EU rejects Brexit trade deal for UK financial services sector
EU Brexit negotiators have set out a tough line on financial services, ruling out an ambitious trade deal for the lucrative sector and arguing that Europe would benefit from a smaller City of London, according to confidential discussions among the other 27 EU member states.
In a rebuff to the UK, which is seeking to put financial services at the heart of a trade deal with the bloc, an internal EU27 meeting this week concluded that future arrangements should be based on “equivalence” — the limited and revocable access given to third-country institutions — rather than a wide-ranging new pact.
At present, such provisions give financial groups from countries such as the US conditional access to the single market for some services.
“There was a strong commission message that there would be no special deal,” said an EU diplomat briefed on the discussions — a first attempt to thrash out the bloc’s position on the issue before negotiations with Britain start in March. “The UK is being told from the beginning what the situation is.”
Another EU diplomat said: “They are out of the internal market, that’s it. There can only be a much less ambitious agreement.”
Ensuring that financial services are not badly hit by Brexit is a top priority for the UK, since the sector is Britain’s biggest source of exports and tax revenue.
Theresa May’s government has also argued that if the City were damaged it would adversely affect financial stability and EU groups’ cost of financing, while contributing to the fragmentation of the sector.
But participants said that in the EU27 meeting the European Commission played down the risks of cutting off the City to EU businesses, saying that the financial sector was mobile enough to adapt.
They added that the commission maintained that a smaller City could benefit financial stability and the development of capital markets in the EU27, an argument that Spain also vocally supported.
The discussion focused on future relations after a transition period that Brussels intends to end by December 31 2020.
The commission negotiator also told the meeting that giving the City extensive market access could leave the EU more vulnerable in a crisis.
Brussels’ fear is that, in a financial emergency, UK regulators would prioritise continuity in companies’ UK operations over their activities in the EU27. This could lead to outflows of capital and liquidity or the withdrawal of vital services at a critical moment.
One senior diplomat said that the commission had underlined the importance of making sure that the EU did not lose “influence” over the UK financial sector, which could “have such a huge impact on the EU”.
While no country contradicted the approach of the commission, which is conducting the negotiations with the UK, the discussion highlighted differences between member states.
Germany, Sweden and Luxembourg cited the benefits of continuing co-operation with the UK, while France argued that the costs of a hard break would be limited and easy to contain.
Like the commission, Paris said there was a need to prevent the UK undercutting the bloc’s financial rules, and urged Brussels to encourage London-based companies to trigger relocation plans.
According to one person briefed on its thinking, the commission will send out notices warning a wide range of different financial groups to be prepared for Brexit and the lapse of the UK’s rights as an EU member.
These include banks and payment service providers, insurers, asset managers and brokerages, as well as auditors and credit-rating agencies.
Brussels has already prepared itself for Brexit by toughening its criteria for granting equivalence to systemically important non-EU financial centres, and the commission negotiator told the meeting that intensive talks would be needed with the UK on financial stability arrangements.
The commission official also said that the ball was in the UK’s court to set out ideas for how trade in financial services might operate after Brexit.A UK government official said: “We are confident of negotiating a deep and special economic partnership that includes a good deal for financial services, and protects the City of London’s position as the world’s leading financial centre.
“We start from the unique position of regulatory alignment and trust in one another’s institutions. The UK’s financial services sector plays an essential role in the European economy and so it is in the interests of all parties to secure a deal.”
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The UK continues to be its own worst enemy in the negotiations:
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...s-coming-to-uk
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Theresa May is a fucking moron, I wish my party would no confidence her. I have no confidence in her.
She asked for the transition. The EU has all-but-agreed the transition on the basis that the UK continues to respect the rules which of course include free movement. This is not a field to fight and die on. If you want a fight over something, try and ensure there's a protection of some sort that while we don't have voting rights a rule isn't put in that does us serious damage, or try to secure a good long-term deal - don't fight the existing rules during the transition period you asked for. MORON!
From the Brexiter perspective this makes perfect sense. You don't want a bunch of Bulgarians and Romanians sneaking in during the transition period and settling permanently in the UK.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
You mean from your warped interpretation of what a Brexiter is it may make sense. It doesn't make any sense to me. Unlike May I voted for Brexit.
May isn't a Brexiter and it shows. She has none of the sunny optimism that helped Gove and Boris win, instead she's pathetic and latched onto the small, closed-minded stereotype of what you imagine a Brexiter to be. She should go.
No, it makes sense from the perspective of that large group of Brexiters who've made their opposition to FoM and European immigration very clear, along with their opposition to a protracted transition that essentially keeps the UK in the EU, arrangements that keep the UK in the single market and their preference for a swift and hard Brexit in general.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."