I'm not so certain; parts of the text are so ambiguous that it almost seems as if they want it to mean the same as the present situation but with a different name. I mean 'Mobility Framework'? What is that supposed to mean? Basically the only 'red line' that survived Chequers unscathed seems to be that they want to regulate for the City independently.
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Its a largely BINO proposal.
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Aaaaand they self-destructed anyway.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...te-soft-brexit
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
No, it won't be in name only. There will definitely be a difference between privileges as a member state and privileges as a third party.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Yeah, well that is true.
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No doubt but May has probably more by good luck than good management got the perfect timing to bury bad news. All any ordinary person cares about today is the football and the sunshine.
NOW it is blowing up. David Davis has resigned and a number or DEXEU ministers are resigning en mass.
I expect a leadership challenge to May within 24 hours.
Cliff edge, meet the Lemmings.
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Poor Davis... that's four hours of work down the drain.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Oh God some people are floating Grayling as Davis's successor. If that happens, expect to see Brexit canceled w/ a bankrupt rebate-less UK joining the Eurozone and Schengen within a week.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Dominic Raab.
A nutter best known for trying to abolish the Human Right Act. Suits hapless May perfectly.
He's a more competent politician than Davis, and his views are in line with the views of the new nutty Tory party, which is why he enjoys support among Tory MPs. It is hilarious to see you constantly trying to blame May for Tory asshattery.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Because May is the leader responsible for the asshattery. What is she not responsible for that is asshattery?
Rumours now that BoJo is going to resign.
Drama.
BOJO IS GONE.
That lasted longer than I expected.
There's a man goin' 'round, takin' names
And he decides who to free and who to blame
I'm so happy
Just Gove and Fox to go. Not optimistic about the smiley toad, Gove, but Fox might.
Well, now they can openly break your government.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
See? There's always a silver lining.
Admittedly, he'll probably come back and try and be Tory leader again at some point so we've got that to look forward to.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
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YouGov: BoJo loses to pretty much everyone.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
General Election incoming.
Tories stick with Brexit
Labour stick with Brexit
Lib Dems don't.
Vince Cable as PM
LOL
So Bojo didn't have the guts to go with his 'principles' but that sure as hell doesn't mean he doesn't have the instincts that make a rat jumping a sinking ship.
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May's questionable actions and statements have either reflected Brexiter-Tories' wishes, been provoked by their actions, or been overshadowed by their asshattery. Triggering a50, red lines, attempts to fudge, lack of preparation, throwing GFA under the bus, lying to parliament, the responsibility for all of these things is shared.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
May's made a ton of mistakes, but the basic problem she's faced with is that Brexit, as envisaged by the Leave side during the referendum, is an unsquarable circle.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
No she is responsible for all of that. The buck stops with her and she has either encouraged or tolerated all of that.
No it isn't. It just requires taking a stand and going with it. There were a number of options available which the EU said at the start - a CETA style trade deal, EEA deal etc. May has insulted everyone both at home and on the continent and stood for nothing. She is weak.
Had a decision been made at the start both what kind of Brexit we wanted AND preparations in earnest in case talks failed then things could have been better.
That is nonsense. She has tried to act in accordance w/ the mandate they have and in accordance with the conflicting wishes of the Tory party. Because it has been her responsibility to deliver precisely that shit-sandwich, that's what she has done. Any Brexiter who wanted to trigger art 50, or insist on those red lines, or approach the negotiations in the same idiotic and delusional fashion as Brexiter ideology dictates, or who tolerated the likes of Davis, Johnson, Gove, Fox, Mogg etc. would have accomplished precisely the same things.
This is not May's fault, it's the Tories' and the voters' fault and it ultimately reflects the Brexiters' delusional cherry-picking cake-and-eat-it approach to Brexit and the negotiations.No it isn't. It just requires taking a stand and going with it. There were a number of options available which the EU said at the start - a CETA style trade deal, EEA deal etc. May has insulted everyone both at home and on the continent and stood for nothing. She is weak.
Had a decision been made at the start both what kind of Brexit we wanted AND preparations in earnest in case talks failed then things could have been better.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
How's something CETA like gonna fly with the idea of not having a boarder with Ireland (either one) and the UK, thus screwing up the Good Friday Agreement?
I agree with you that a decision should have been made right at the start about what Brexit should have look like, but 'right at the start' should have meant before the referendum so people knew exactly what they were voting for. As it is, Brexit turned into something basically any given type of right winger could project their political fantasies onto: it's turning the UK into a Singapore style centre of free trade and deregulation and will magic trade deals into existance, it's turning the clock back on globalism and cutting migration to the bone, it's going to free up tones of money for the Tories to pretend to spend on the NHS but really just tax cuts for rich people, it's going to be exactly like being in the EU and nothing will really change except the annoying parts, etc etc etc. Hence the mess and confusion, plus fuckers like Reece Mogg or Farage under the impression that because they won the referendum they have a mandate to impose their own personal vision of Brexit on the country.
There should definately be another referendum on the deal, but there's almost no time for that because Article 50's already been triggered.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
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I'd like to announce that I, too, am unavailable for the post of Foreign Sectary. I have a thing on.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Like JRM would be offered squat.
Jeremy Hunt is new Foreign Secretary.
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BoJo bringing shame over the UK one last time on the way out.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
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