The ERG have somewhere between 60 and 80 MPs, they can't ditch them - it would be even more devastating to the Tory party than what Boris has done to them.
Also a Hard Brexit is now essentially government policy, not something they want to avoid.
The ERG have somewhere between 60 and 80 MPs, they can't ditch them - it would be even more devastating to the Tory party than what Boris has done to them.
Also a Hard Brexit is now essentially government policy, not something they want to avoid.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
But the fun is that nobody on the government benches is necessary for a majority any longer. Maybe the entire erg is too much, but kicking out everybody who dares to revolt against whatever deal is agreed would strengthen what could be the Conservative party again.Originally Posted by Steely Glint
It's a bit va banque but if the EU is going along with it, for example by refusing further extensions after a deal at the Council. Then the people who want a deal cannot hide behind Boris Johnson any longer
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Shockingly, it turns out that Mr Johnson may not have been entirely honest.Judges rule Parliament suspension is unlawful
In a summary of their findings, the Court of Session judges said they were unanimous in their belief that Mr Johnson's decision to suspend was motivated by the "improper purpose of stymying Parliament".
They added: "The Court will accordingly make an Order declaring that the Prime Minister's advice to HM the Queen and the prorogation which followed thereon was unlawful and is thus null and of no effect."
There's a man goin' 'round, takin' names
And he decides who to free and who to blame
Court in England says lawful, Scotland says unlawful. Interesting. NI court yet to rule. No case in Wales.
Supreme Court will settle it on Tuesday. Almost certainly has to overturn one of the lower courts but which one?
Nothing surprises me any longer in the three ring circus you lot made of Brexit and politics in general in the UK. Now let's see if the Supreme Court considers itself qualified to rule on the issue.
I presume that technically MP's who decide to convene as if Parliament is in session as well as those who think that is unlawful both stand within their right?
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Hey Randy, now that the 'Brexit with no deal will be just fine' boys that somehow is still called HMG have joined Project fear, are you still as happy with your choice as 3 years ago? Are you going to absorb higher prices for ingridients for your customers? Or are you just going to price yourself out of the market?
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What fear are you talking about?
You surely aren't talking about Yellowhammer so is there something I've missed?
No, just talking about the parts of Yellowhammer that will deprive your business from ingredients needed at the low prices you are used to. Isn't it difficult breathing with your head stuck so deep in the dirt?
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Yellowhammer is a worst case scenario without mitigation, a stress test, it's not what will happen.
I'm just waiting for Brexiteers to start offering their first born in exchange for a no-deal Brexit.
Hope is the denial of reality
Yellowhammer report describes the no deal "base case" as well as reasonable worst case. They have taken into account measures that been taken to mitigate some of the problems.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
He's also not aware that 'mitigation' also can mean mainland producers not even bothering to try.
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That is indeed one of the important mitigation strategies being assumed in the best NDB case—many businesses canceling or diverting shipments, thus reducing strain on ports as well as on businesses and the various parts of their supply chains.
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"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Hey Randy. Just wondering, how does it feel to have a PM who's routinely humiliated?
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We're all more or less used to that at this point.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Agreed. Been standard fare since May's failed election.
Haha, that's really funny. Didn't the acclamation of the Hulk change the balance of power dramatically after all? Clearly Randy's sense of honor is so flexible that soon he'll declare abject surrender a victory. And tell us that this was exactly what he voted for and is proud of.
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We'll see what happens yet, despite Parliament I'm still hopeful.
Fingers crossed Boris and the UK are pissing you off just enough that you give us the concessions we want just to be rid of us
There seem to be increasingly hopeful signs that EU leaders are getting exasperated enough with us.
While that plan is certainly playing to Boris's strengths, I don't think the EU is going to compromise it's interests just because Boris is annoying and difficult to deal with.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Which signs? Where have the been reported? Exasperated enough to do what beyond letting you crash out if you want to, or maintain today's status quo at best?We'll see what happens yet, despite Parliament I'm still hopeful.
Fingers crossed Boris and the UK are pissing you off just enough that you give us the concessions we want just to be rid of us
There seem to be increasingly hopeful signs that EU leaders are getting exasperated enough with us.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Quoted for posterity. "Hope" you see the irony, Rand.We'll see what happens yet, despite Parliament I'm still hopeful.
Fingers crossed Boris and the UK are pissing you off just enough that you give us the concessions we want just to be rid of us
There seem to be increasingly hopeful signs that EU leaders are getting exasperated enough with us.
That's the most positive way to put that the EU claims boris has yet to come up with any realistic proposal, and that he was not very knowledgeable during the meeting. But sure, not preparing properly for the one job you have to do is part of the plan.We'll see what happens yet, despite Parliament I'm still hopeful.
Fingers crossed Boris and the UK are pissing you off just enough that you give us the concessions we want just to be rid of us
There seem to be increasingly hopeful signs that EU leaders are getting exasperated enough with us.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
Some of the pro-brexit tabloids have been trying to make it look like the EU is on the verge of caving. I guess he believes them?
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Well, the ultimatums so far have been softer than butter left out in the sun. So one could be forgiven for thinking the EU will give in.
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https://www.ft.com/content/7453c686-...b-77216ebe1f17
The exchange, according to one EU official, was part of an abrupt “learning curve” for Mr Johnson in his first face-to-face meeting with Mr Barnier and Mr Juncker since he took office.
Another official describes the prime minister gradually “slumping” in his chair as the reality of the UK’s negotiating position and the limited time left to strike an agreement dawned on him. “He wasn’t used to hearing it”, added the official.
Mr Juncker told his college of commissioners in Strasbourg on Tuesday that the Luxembourg lunch was the first time that “Boris Johnson understood the meaning of the single market”. A Number 10 official rejected descriptions of the lunch as “nonsense”.
Although the EU has repeated ad nauseam that the UK’s partial solution to customs checks is not a credible alternative to the legally operational backstop, that message does not seemed to have been relayed to Number 10.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49662531
Tabloids like The Guardian?
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...l-brussels-dup
Wow, you don't know the difference between news and opinion?
Hope is the denial of reality
Tell me, do you actually read the articles you post?
I understand it's hard to parse his waffle (metaphors chasing each other off the page) and wishful thinking and get to the thin substance, but what in that makes you think Jenkins is saying it's the EU that's about to cave? If anything he seems to think it's the DUP that's going to compromise.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Thomas Cook UK went down. Of course RandBlade will tell us that has no relation to brexit. Strangely enough the Dutch branch expects to escape the fate of the British mother.
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