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    Default Tragedy, and a reminder, See Something? Say Something.

    https://abc13.com/truck-thief-stabbe...urces/5309919/


    "Cobos told police he was having issues with his vehicle and asked the woman to help him. Police said that Cobos then forced his way into Nugent's home sometime Sunday night and stabbed her several times when she told him she couldn't help.

    Phoenix police said the truck was stolen on May 16 from someone who knew Nugent, and was reported to officers on May 20.

    "I took her chicken noodle soup, 7 o'clock Sunday night," said Sharon Shanahan, a neighbor for more than 30 years. "They think it happened shortly after that."

    Shanahan and other neighbors say Nugent and her husband are pillars of the community. They were dedicated to their church across the street and took pride in their Sharpstown neighborhood.

    "A gentle soul, good Christian woman. Always will do whatever for the neighborhood," said Shanahan.

    Law enforcement sources told ABC13 that sometime after stabbing her, Cobos took $560 and drove the victim's Honda Accord to the store so he can buy food for himself and a new battery for the pickup.
    Cobos returned to Nugent's home, where he ate his food and hung out for several hours, sources added. He also apparently used Nugent's credit card to pay his cell phone bill.

    At some point on Monday, Cobos left the home once more. As of this moment, it's unclear whether he used the pickup or the Honda again.

    Nugent's husband has been recovering from an illness at an assisted living facility and was not home at the time.

    "Just devastated, is what comes to mind," said Council Member Mike Laster, who represents Sharpstown and has known the Nugent family for years. "Evil exists. It happens. And we are all our brother's keepers and we all need to keep an eye on each other and keep an eye on the area.""

    This article didn't go into all the gruesome details of the crime. She was stabbed 13 times with a variety of weapons. Absolutely tragic. One of big lessons though is the bolded portion. Good citizens give police probable cause. See something that seems not right? Say something and have the police investigate.

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    The article was poorly written (even tho her bio says she's won an Emmy). "Phoenix police said the truck was stolen on May 16 from someone who knew Nugent, and was reported to officers on May 20."

    But I digress. Of course we all need to look out for each other! That's just part of being a compassionate fellow human being, a member of civil society, a good neighbor. But giving police "probable cause" shouldn't be the priority in the See Something Say Something arena.

    Instead, it should mean that this guy would have been "seen" as a troubled individual well before he committed a crime, or police got involved. Phrasing his behavior as EVIL just compounds the problem. So what do you propose as the pre-crime solution, Lewk the Libertarian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Instead, it should mean that this guy would have been "seen" as a troubled individual well before he committed a crime, or police got involved. Phrasing his behavior as EVIL just compounds the problem. So what do you propose as the pre-crime solution, Lewk the Libertarian?
    If this isn't evil than what is? Do you think we should just eliminate the word evil all together then?

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    Not sure what there is to discuss. Looking out for your neighbors is a good thing; excessive, unjustified, biased suspicion is a bad thing.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

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