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    Thumbs down Comedy Central fellates Muslim cock; Censors "Muhammed".

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/ar...on/23park.html
    April 23, 2010
    ‘South Park’ Episode Altered After Muslim Group’s Warning
    By DAVE ITZKOFF

    “South Park,” the Comedy Central series, is an animated show that tries its best to push buttons and the boundaries of free speech by mocking every high-profile target in sight, from Hollywood celebrities to religious figures. But its creators may have gotten more than they bargained for with two recent episodes that satirized the Prophet Muhammad — one that elicited an ominous message from an Islamic group based in New York, and one that was censored by the cable network that shows it.

    On April 14 Comedy Central broadcast the 200th episode of “South Park,” a cartoon that Trey Parker and Matt Stone have produced for that channel since 1997. In honor of the occasion, Mr. Parker and Mr. Stone populated the episode with nearly all the famous people their show has lampooned in its history, including celebrities like Tom Cruise and Barbra Streisand, as well as major religious figures, like Moses, Jesus and Buddha.

    Cognizant that Islam forbids the depiction of its holiest prophet, Mr. Stone and Mr. Parker showed their “South Park” characters agonizing over how to bring Muhammad to their fictional Colorado town. At first the character said to be Muhammad is confined to a U-Haul trailer, and is heard speaking but is not shown. Later in the episode the character is let out of the trailer, dressed in a bear costume.

    The next day the “South Park” episode was criticized by the group Revolution Muslim in a post at its Web site, revolutionmuslim.com. The post, written by a member named Abu Talhah Al-Amrikee, said the episode “outright insulted” the prophet, adding: “We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid, and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show. This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them.”

    Mr. van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker and a critic of religions including Islam, was killed by an Islamic militant in Amsterdam in 2004 after he made a film that discussed the abuse of Muslim women in some Islamic societies.

    In a telephone interview on Wednesday, Younus Abdullah Muhammad, a member of Revolution Muslim, repeated the group’s assertion that the post was a prediction rather than a threat. He said the post on the group’s blog “was intended in a principle that’s deeply rooted in the Islamic religion, which is called commanding the good and forbidding the evil.” He tied the group’s complaints about “South Park” to larger frustrations about American support for Israel and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Asked if the F.B.I. was investigating, Special Agent Richard Kolko, an F.B.I. spokesman in New York, said in a phone interview that the bureau did not “monitor people or groups, we investigate criminal activity.”

    Mr. Kolko said: “The F.B.I. will investigate threats that occur over the Internet to determine if there is a potential for the threat to be carried out. However, in most cases these are First Amendment issues, and the F.B.I. vigorously defends people’s First Amendment rights.”

    Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said the New York Police Department was “aware of the threat, and we’ve looked at it.”

    He added, “We don’t think that this threat, as is currently assessed, rises to a crime right now.”

    A law enforcement official, who requested anonymity because the investigation was continuing, said police investigators had met with people at Comedy Central and "made arrangements to address security concerns."

    Comedy Central has previously given Mr. Stone and Mr. Parker a certain free rein with “South Park.” In a July 2001 episode, “Super Best Friends,” Muhammad was depicted alongside the founders of other religions, including Krishna and Lao Tzu.

    But in 2006, when “South Park” wanted to weigh in on a controversy that erupted after Jyllands-Posten, a Danish newspaper, published cartoons satirizing Muhammad, it was not given the same latitude: a character said to be Muhammad was concealed behind a large black box labeled “CENSORED.” The measure was taken by the “South Park” producers partly at the insistence of Comedy Central, and partly as a commentary on the network’s policy of not allowing them to show the character, which the episode equated with giving in to the demands of extremists.

    In a new episode of “South Park” broadcast Wednesday on Comedy Central, Mr. Parker and Mr. Stone exercised a degree of self-censorship. In continuing the previous week’s story line about the Prophet Muhammad, that character was hidden underneath a “CENSORED” graphic, and an audio bleep was heard when his name was said.

    But in a message that appeared Thursday morning on SouthParkStudios.com, the Web site of Mr. Stone and Mr. Parker’s company, the studio said that Comedy Central had imposed further changes to the show.

    “After we delivered the show, and prior to broadcast, Comedy Central placed numerous additional audio bleeps throughout the episode,” the message said. It added that the network was not allowing the episode to be streamed on the Web site, where “South Park” shows generally appear after they are broadcast on Comedy Central.

    A spokesman for Comedy Central confirmed on Thursday that the network had added more bleeps to the episode than were in the version delivered by South Park Studios, and that it was not permitting the episode to be shown on the studio’s Web site. Comedy Central did not broadcast a repeat of the new “South Park” episode at midnight as it usually does, and instead showed a previous episode from this season. The channel was scheduled to do the same Thursday night.

    Comedy Central declined to comment on the Revolution Muslim blog post or say if it was taking any precautions because of it.

    In a statement, Mr. Parker and Mr. Stone wrote: “In the 14 years we’ve been doing ‘South Park’ we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central, and they made a determination to alter the episode.”

    The episode was to end with a speech “about intimidation and fear,” Mr. Parker and Mr. Stone wrote, adding, “It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too.”

    They continued, “We’ll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different, and we’ll see what happens to it.”

    Al Baker contributed reporting.

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    Comedy Central can go fuck itself

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    I wonder if Comedy Central realizes how far it discredited itself by not censoring Buddha snorting cocaine, but censoring Muhammad's photo.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    And this is why I don't think I'll ever actually understand today's businesses.

    How many militant Islamic extremists actually watch South Park? How many people who actually do watch South Park are liable to be pissed off by you giving in to a bunch of theocratic dark-age fuckwits?

    So who the hell are you censoring South Park for, FFS????

    It's like every satire about the business world is correct, and intelligence really is inversely proportional to the amount of power you have in a corporation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post

    It's like every satire about the business world is correct, and intelligence really is inversely proportional to the amount of power you have in a corporation.
    Whelp, back to subsistence farming it is, then
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    South park creators are bloody heroes in my book.

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    One of the funniest South Park episode was the previous one to have a 'censored' Mohammed within Family Guy, so all the adults decide to literally put their heads in the sand.

    Comedy Central should not give in to threats of murder. I don't really blame them personally though, the guy who made the barely concealed threat of murder referencing Theo Van Gogh is disgraceful. Thumbs up to Stone and Parker for refusing to be intimidated.

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    Yeah but it was a post on a blog. Imagine if we were held accountable and taken seriously for every fuckwit thing said on here...
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    I swear I replied to this thread yesterday, but the post is gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I swear I replied to this thread yesterday, but the post is gone.
    I think this is the third time the subject has come up, Chacha.

    Maybe you dreamed about replying to this thread. That would be awesome.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post

    Maybe you dreamed about replying to this thread. That would be awesome.
    You mean somewhere between frightening and pathetic....
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    Maybe you dreamed about replying to this thread. That would be awesome.
    On the other hand, age could be a factor and Chacha could be going senile. I much prefer the nuttyNess excuse myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lor View Post
    On the other hand, age could be a factor and Chacha could be going senile. I much prefer the nuttyNess excuse myself!
    While there is madness in my family, there is no age-related dementia.
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    This makes me want to barf. How is it that every year the "uptight with a stick up my ass" award goes to some Muslim guy ranting about how somebody insulting Mohammed? At some point, it's saying something about Islam, no? I've spent most of my life avoiding making generalizations like that, but holy shit, there's a point at which I can avoid it no longer. Islam has become the official religion of uptight assholes, and really the others struggle to compete in that category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    This makes me want to barf. How is it that every year the "uptight with a stick up my ass" award goes to some Muslim guy ranting about how somebody insulting Mohammed? At some point, it's saying something about Islam, no? I've spent most of my life avoiding making generalizations like that, but holy shit, there's a point at which I can avoid it no longer. Islam has become the official religion of uptight assholes, and really the others struggle to compete in that category.
    The weirdest thing about the situation is that the leader of the nutty group is a former secular Jew. It's like people who hate humanity decide to convert to Islam in order to have justification for holding that view.

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    No kidding!

    Seriously, I find myself in the disturbing situation of feeling, well, bigoted. Not really I suppose, but I'm making generalizations about Islam and its adherents that I've never made before. Honestly, the insanity seems to have passed the US by for the most part. So disturbing to see this. And these assholes hiding behind the "oh, that was just some friendly advice" defense? FFS. A threat is a threat, and that was a threat. They were setting up a pretty clear quid pro quo.

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    I'm amazed Comedy Central gave in to a bunch of worthless lunatics. It's not like these guys have any capacity to carry out their threats (if they did, they'd be in jail now).

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    Well, I'm assuming it's not ratings that is driving CC. Or at least not directly. Maybe they don't want to be perceived as being too inflammatory. Ha! OK, that can't be it.

    Maybe they really are worried about the threat. Not in a general way as a network, but fear for the safety of specific persons? That's part of what was so revolting about the Theo Van Gogh thing: it was very effective terrorism. It makes almost anybody, or at least in certain places, stop and wonder whether their actions will get their throat slashed on the street. Many would take that risk for some sort of big cause, but maybe not for a gag in an irreverent animation comedy.

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    In related news: http://gawker.com/5522966/south-park...slamic-website
    UPDATED: Now Younus Abdullah Mohammed, of Revolution Muslim, has confirmed to us that hackers briefly redirected the group's website to revolutionislam.com, a site that hosts the image above — a cartoon depiction of the Prophet, originally published by Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten in 2005.

    "But it was pointless," said Mohammed of the brief prank. "Our website is down with the amount of traffic now anyway. If these hackers want to show their support for the filth and trash that is America then that is fine by us. We already know the outcome as Muslims."
    That outcome? "Islam will take over the world."

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    Thanks Draco. Now someone's going to come in here and blow the place up. Just like back at Atari.
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    ^^I don't know what happened in the Atari CC forum, but i didn't mean to offend anyone by posting that link/image..

    I saw the episode the other day though, and didn't find it all too funny. South Park has done better episodes.

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    It was a joke, Draco. Cahloobi was blaming the troubles over at Atari on pissing off Allah or something like that.

    Seems like as good an explanation as any, I guess.
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    ^^Ahh i see now and i thought there really was an issue with that image in the old forum..

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    Anti-Islam has been a hot topic over at 4chan right now. From the looks of it there's going to be a lot of Islamic websites that are going to be pranked in the coming days. Probably won't be a big deal although many of the pictures they've made make Theo van Gogh's comic look like pro-Muslim material.

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    Did any of you ever see anything by Van Gogh at all?
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    ^^Ahh i see now and i thought there really was an issue with that image in the old forum..
    No, and it's actually encouraged to post here

    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Did any of you ever see anything by Van Gogh at all?
    Yes, I suspect folks don't understand what Theo actually made. Or confuse it with the Danish Mohammad cartoons.

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    Is that a real screencap, OG? I haven't watched the Simpsons in years (owing to its not being funny in even longer), but maybe there's hope for it, if that's a real screencap.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Yeah, opening credits for The Squirt and the Whale.

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