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    The GOP is now claiming Doug Jones should vote with the Republicans. Unbelievable.
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    At least they accept he has the right to vote.
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    Hey now, be nice. Jones is still white after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    How do you mean? Republicans ended up either endorsing or tolerating Moore, and he won decisively among white voters in Alabama.
    Actually no many Republicans including the senior Republican Senator for Alabama publicly said they couldn't vote for Moore. Had that not happened then Moore may have won.

    Reminds me of the old joke that they could only lose the election if they were found with a dead girl or a live boy in the bed. Glad to see that molesting young girls is a bridge too far too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Actually no many Republicans including the senior Republican Senator for Alabama publicly said they couldn't vote for Moore. Had that not happened then Moore may have won.

    Reminds me of the old joke that they could only lose the election if they were found with a dead girl or a live boy in the bed. Glad to see that molesting young girls is a bridge too far too.
    Also, reports I heard are about 22k write-in votes were cast, presumably by Republicans who could not stomach voting for Moore and who also would rather die than vote Democrat. If the write-ins had voted for Moore, he would have won. It is fair to say Republican voters in Alabama caused Moore to lose, regardless of the record level black vote.
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    Plus turnout was massively down in Republican areas notwithstanding that this was a midterm vote.

    There can be no doubt that Moore lost this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Actually no many Republicans including the senior Republican Senator for Alabama publicly said they couldn't vote for Moore. Had that not happened then Moore may have won.
    Most senators' comments mid-November were variations on "if true". Week before the election, most of those who commented appear to have basically said, "We'll see what happens." True, this may be an example of damning with faint praise, and it may certainly have dissuaded some Republican voters, but, voters being swayed that easily doesn't mesh well with previously discussed theories about extreme partisanship and disbelief.

    While senators were hemming and hawing, Fox gave us a non-stop full-throated endorsement of Moore, and I don't think it's reasonable to place so much weight on the ambiguous comments of random senators while disregarding the influence of the most important actor in Republican media.

    Reminds me of the old joke that they could only lose the election if they were found with a dead girl or a live boy in the bed. Glad to see that molesting young girls is a bridge too far too.
    By a hair.

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Also, reports I heard are about 22k write-in votes were cast, presumably by Republicans who could not stomach voting for Moore and who also would rather die than vote Democrat. If the write-ins had voted for Moore, he would have won. It is fair to say Republican voters in Alabama caused Moore to lose, regardless of the record level black vote.

    Much higher turnout than expected esp. among those overwhelmingly likely to vote Democrat and a substantial swing among self-identified independent voters who I believe are ordinarily more likely to vote Republican (if we're looking for the source for a couple of percents' worth of write-in votes). That "record level black vote" was almost all for Jones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Plus turnout was massively down in Republican areas notwithstanding that this was a midterm vote.

    There can be no doubt that Moore lost this.
    Republican turnout wasn't so much down (relative to what we'd expect from a special election) as Democratic turnout was up. Meanwhile, 8% of Republicans voted for Jones.
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    Considering the margin of victory that 8% mattered.

    All in all Jones benefited from a perfect storm.
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    8% isn't exactly abnormal, even in an election without slavery supporting pedophiles.
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    Is this legitimate? Because if it is, its hilarious

    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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    This is what it looked like 2008 when Sessions trashed his opponent by almost 600,000 votes

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    As an impartial and dispassionate observer of American politics, can I just say what a great idea this was:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...strange-241138

    Mitch, if you're reading you should do a lot more like this.
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    Greetings, citizen! THE COMPUTER has made you a protector of the underground city of ALPHA COMPLEX. You will have lots of fun rooting out Communist mutant traitors. The Computer says so.

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    Background: some conservatives are promoting conspiracy theories about the election that don't hold up to even the most cursory scrutiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    some conservatives are promoting conspiracy theories [...] that don't hold up to even the most cursory scrutiny.
    Evergreen.
    The walls are coming down.
    All we need is one to fail, one to break, one to take it all away.
    What if we crumble, what if we fall? Where's the flame that torch the soul?
    Truth, when spoken, dies down to nothing.

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    It gets worse:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pastor-...nding-ovation/

    Chris Conlee, the lead pastor of the Memphis church where Savage now ministers, prayed for Savage and Woodson.

    "It saddens us that Ms. Woodson has not been on the same road to healing," Conlee said.

    His boss not only supports the rapist, but he went the extra mile of attacking the victim. He's calling her a bad Christian for not keeping her rape a secret.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Perhaps they really are an alien race.
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    I'm sad she hasn't healed too. I wonder if the church officials recognize the difference in needs that a victim has for healing vs. a perpetrator? For example, justice. Open acknowledgment of the crime and the harm that was done is good too. Simple honesty wouldn't hurt. Maybe she might have healed better if the Church or the rapist had done any of this stuff.
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