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    I wouldn't be surprised if the investigation is going at the pace its going at because of how many people its snaring, not how difficult its. Experts are talking about NRA tax filings now. America could very well be looking at a real life Hail Hydra moment when this gets all wrapped up.


    Wonder if Lewk knows where Benghazi would fall in Aimless' chart.
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    Plus, the scope of the investigation is to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election, not just what part Trump had in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    What exactly creates a delay? They have a team working to process information. Talk to everyone they want to talk with and get it done. Our entire system is slow as hell (not just this investigation) and its really nonsensical. In the private world when an employee has an arbitration dispute shit gets handled fast. I'm not going to pretend they have the same levels of complexity but you'd think that the idea that the leader of the free world is currently in power and *might* (doubt it) have broken the law and conspired with a foreign power would lead to someone to give it some gas? Like seriously "steal an election and in the last year of your term you might be in trouble!" is insane.
    Is there some reason why you don't understand the difference between the simple civil matters dealt with in arbitration on the private sector and a massively complex criminal investigation involving millions of pages of documentation, convoluted paper- & money trails, dozens of targets, dozens of witnesses etc?

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    Trump made some horrible comments in Montana. He goes over the line, and lowers the bar so often, the 'new normal' has become pathetic.

    I can't understand how or why 'conservatives' continue to support this man, when none of his policies are actually 'conservative'. It's as if the paranoid, conspiratorial, anti-globalist, anti-immigrant (and yes, white nationalist) wing of the GOP has taken over the traditional conservative debate about size and scope of government. Now it's not just healthy skepticism, or run-of-the mill anti-establishment, but deconstructing the administrative state and weird Deep State stuff.

    It might be common when people vote against their own self-interests, but it's NOT common when both congress and senate fail to keep a president (or his cabinet) in check when they violate ethical norms, stoke mistrust in our Dept. of Justice and Intelligence agencies, damage relationships with foreign allies and trading partners, or threaten to leave international groups, all while cozying up to dictators. This is NOT normal! Not even by 'conservative' standards.

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    Black people are a threat to all, GOP-endorsed white supremacist candidate believes:

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...g-black/220614

    Anyone who defends the GOP today is full of shit.
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    The GOP is now more racist that UKIP.

    Seriously, saying that would get you tossed out of UKIP.

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    UKIP are bad by the UK's standards but not that bad compared to most other nations. Most continental European nations have parties worse than UKIP and until recently I argued that first past the post was what stopped such extreme parties like the FN, AfD, Golden Dawn, Jobbik, FPO etc taking hold here.

    The GOP have dismissed my argument on that subject completely.
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    The GOP has made its choice:

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politic...ling-overblown

    Not surprising, but still chilling.
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    The GOP used to be a party that believed in Rule of Law -- now they diss and dismiss the FBI, and all Intelligence Agencies.
    They used to advocate for "Free Trade and Free Markets" -- now they're Trump Tariff anti-globalism protectionists.
    They used to defend the 1st Amendment and a Free Press -- now the leader of their party is anti-press and calls them The Enemy of The People.
    Even Reagan-era Republicans embraced immigration, as part of our liberal democratic values -- now they're xenophobic, anti-immigrant isolationists.
    They used to fight against over-reach of Executive powers -- but now want a SCOTUS judge that treats presidential powers almost sacrosanct.
    And they used to take National Defense, International Relations, and Diplomacy seriously -- until they let Trump's tantrums take over.


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