Can American conservatism survive intact & unadulterated?

[GGT]

OK, but we still need to figure out how to talk about important issues, in order to solve big problems, without the name-calling or demonizing that just perpetuates the vicious cycle of name-calling and demonizing that doesn't solve *anything*.

IMO that's what makes Lewk the troll that shouldn't be banned, paradoxically, because he forces everyone else to use facts and reason even when he doesn't, and it's not enough just to call him an idiot or moron or troll -- that's too easy -- just like it's too easy to label conservatives or progressives, or (D) or (R) as dumb or stupid, good or bad.


Hey, btw, why didn't my links to "Conservatives for Labor" get a response, even tho it could have sparked a good debate?

[RandBlade]

With friends like this ...

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A whole lot of S-M-R-T in her Tweets.

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[RandBlade]

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He attended Oktoberfest while he knew he should be quarantined and was positive.

[Loki]

Another of Lewk's heroes:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10...investigation/

[RandBlade]

Incredible polling figure.

Still think things like the Lincoln Project are meaningless Aimless?

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[Aimless]

Incredible polling figure.

Still think things like the Lincoln Project are meaningless Aimless?

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Do I think the Lincoln Project had little to do with Trump being hammered in the polls after the world finally got a chance to directly compare his demeanor to that of Biden, and then learned that his recklessness and selfishness not only led to him getting covid but also exposed dozens of other people to it as well? Well, yeah. I mean, like I said, I'm glad they're doing what they can to help—but Trump was his own worst enemy, here.

[Loki]

I think they're more responsible for some of the elite defections than for the polling numbers. But it's plausible their support is making it harder for the Republican media to paint Biden as a far leftist.

[Aimless]

Bad enough that these people racists, but do they have to be so fucking desperate and weird too?

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[Loki]

You'd think someone named after a chicken company would be more sensitive about name-calling.

[GGT]

I think they're more responsible for some of the elite defections than for the polling numbers. But it's plausible their support is making it harder for the Republican media to paint Biden as a far leftist.

What's the "Republican media"?

[Nessus]

What's the "Republican media"?

The one who cried, weeped, on air, about how Bernard Sanders was going to shoot them in Central Park, op. I hope this helps!

[Loki]

What's the "Republican media"?

I'd call it conservative, but that hasn't been true for the past 4 years.

[GGT]

The one who cried, weeped, on air, about how Bernard Sanders was going to shoot them in Central Park, op. I hope this helps!

I was asking Loki to make a distinction between Republican and Conservative media. <And whatever the hell Fox News, Sinclair, Breitbart, or Limbaugh media platforms are, let alone Facebook groups.> But I suppose it doesn't really matter, since we're living in a topsy-turvy world, where the gyre and gimble are in the wabe, all mimsy, but the center cannot hold.

Hi, Nessie

[Nessus]

I just think it's funny (for given values of funny) that an ostensibly left-wing newscaster will cry, literally cry, on air about how he is about to be shot if someone votes wrong. I guess that's preferable to how the US usually handles things?

[GGT]

The US -- as it is --- shouldn't be a role model for any nation that values democracy. Nothing "funny" about that.

[Nessus]

No worries, we'll have Low-key and Randblade up in here in no time flat to explain how American exceptionalism is in fact the only way forward.

[GGT]

No worries, we'll have Low-key and Randblade up in here in no time flat to explain how American exceptionalism is in fact the only way forward.

American Exceptionalism is a myth, just like Capitalism = Meritocracy is a myth. It's a fool's errand to expect Loki or Rand (or even Lewk) to explain the difference between principle, doctrine, dogma, indoctrination, and propaganda. When 'conservatives' can't define what 'conservatism' means....it's just another example of Cognitive Dissonance. We're in deep shit.

[Nessus]

Richard Nixon did nothing wrong

[GGT]

And Reagan was the 'saint' of the Republican Party

Even tho he began his political career as a Democrat, he was ultimately an actor and switched parties. Sound familiar?

[Nessus]

The man who eulogized Strom Thurmond sure doesn't come to mind

[GGT]

What's your point? The US has been hypocritical for decades. We agree on that.

What comes next?

That's a rhetorical question and I'll come back in a couple of weeks to check for replies. I can't read this forum daily -- that messes with my mental health

[Ziggy Stardust]

The son of some mediocre actor weighs in on the state of the GOP

https://youtu.be/xmW00oZoNcM

[Aimless]

Check out these bananas clips and remember that there's a fucking moron on this forum whose head is stuck so far up his own worthless ass that he thinks this malevolent fucking clown is worthy of the presidency. Look at that crowd of bloodthirsty dullards. That's what the US is going to have to deal with for a generation to come.

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[Loki]

One of Lewk's heroes:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10...ton-aide-fired

[RandBlade]

American conservativism fighting back.

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[Loki]

And they're they're all silent about Trump's authoritarian behavior today.

[Aimless]

American conservativism fighting back.

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Baker blanked his vote. For all of the Lincoln Project's polished trolling on Twitter, Republicans appear to have been more eager to vote for Trump this time around than in 2016. They're doing everything they can to obstruct vote counting efforts, and/or quietly standing by as their president destroys the legitimacy of the election in a way you might otherwise see in a borderline failed state. At the very least, they aren't fighting very well.

[Steely Glint]

See my in depth analysis of the Lincoln Project here

[RandBlade]

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Trump managed to make Mitch and Scott Walker appear sensible. *Facepalm*

[Loki]

Rats abandoning a sinking ship.