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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    RB, if 49% of all appealed cases get reversed, and if many of those appeals are made without legal assistance, and if legal assistance increases the likelihood of success, then it's not unreasonable to assume that, if more people who appeal their decisions are provided with legal assistance, a higher proportion of appealed decisions may be reversed or significantly altered.
    Two statistics aren't known.

    What proportion of appeals have legal assistance.
    What proportion of cases aren't appealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Two statistics aren't known.

    What proportion of appeals have legal assistance.
    What proportion of cases aren't appealed.
    Three: Why are you defending this shitshow of a government which habitually shits on the poor and destitute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Two statistics aren't known.

    What proportion of appeals have legal assistance.
    You can get an idea:

    Official figures on levels of representation are hard to come by, but in more than a fifth of the more than 1,500 immigration bail hearings monitored by the Bar Council last year, the applicant did not have a lawyer. In another study of more than 100 people in detention last autumn, by Bail for Immigration Detainees, 56% did not currently have a lawyer and almost a third had never had a lawyer while in detention. Fewer than a quarter of the detainees interviewed by BID had a solicitor funded by legal aid.
    No matter how you look at it, that's fucked up.

    What proportion of cases aren't appealed.
    This is not an informative statistic tbh but if you want a rough idea of the situation for asylum seekers:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-protection-to

    Of the 22,982 initial decisions on asylum applications from main applicants, 34% were grants of asylum or an alternative form of protection, compared to 38% in the previous year. A separate Home Office analysis shows that for the years 2013 to 2015, on average 37% of decisions were granted initially, but this proportion rose to 52% after appeal.


    According to this close to 80% of refusals have been appealed in recent years:

    http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.a...the-uk-asylum/

    At least 68% refused in 2016, the majority of refusals appealed and 42% of appeals allowed.

    This is extremely embarrassing.

    Even more shameful:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ome-office-fix
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