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    Default Is it legal for an American baker to refuse to bake a gay cake?

    We still don't know, thanks to SCOTUS's masterclass in needle-threading:

    http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/op...ing-cake-case/

    Conservatives all over the US are losing their shit over AP/CNN/CNBC/etc headlines & articles describing a 7-2 verdict as a "narrow ruling", which was def. an avoidable and unnecessary self-own from established news outlets who should've known how their readers would interpret that phrasing.

    Afaict the ruling is very narrow in scope and not really useful for establishing a clear general precedent wrt the legality of denying service on the basis of religiously motivated antipathy toward a protected class, or, more generally, wrt how to untangle this particular kind of clash between different constitutional protections.
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    Kennedy with the smack down:

    Here, Kennedy observed, the “neutral and respectful consideration to which Phillips was entitled was compromised” by comments by members of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission. At one hearing, Kennedy stressed, commissioners repeatedly “endorsed the view that religious beliefs cannot legitimately be carried into the public sphere or commercial domain, implying that religious beliefs and persons are less than fully welcome in Colorado’s business community.” And at a later meeting, Kennedy pointed out, one commissioner “even went so far as to compare Phillips’ invocation of his sincerely held religious beliefs to defenses of slavery and the Holocaust.” “This sentiment,” Kennedy admonished, “is inappropriate for a Commission charged with the solemn responsibility of fair and neutral enforcement of Colorado’s anti-discrimination law—a law that protects discrimination on the basis of religion as well as sexual orientation.” Moreover, Kennedy added, the commission’s treatment of Phillips’ religious objections was at odds with its rulings in the cases of bakers who refused to create cakes “with images that conveyed disapproval of same-sex marriage.”

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    Seems "the smack down" was aimed at the Colorado Civil Rights Commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Seems "the smack down" was aimed at the Colorado Civil Rights Commission.
    The quote clearly describes that, yes.

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    It was a narrow verdict in that it was narrow in scope.

    If it was 5-4 then that's a narrow decision.

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    Kennedy's point is narrow, but also a clear warning to pernicious local "rights commissions" that religious beliefs are legitimate. I doubt the Colorado Human Right Commission is the only organization of its type that needs to be reminded.

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