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    Default Germany... Fascism Makes a Return

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...-press-freedom

    "We don't comment on this rumor," state prosecutor Nana Frombach said to Gatestone when asked about the beheading. All she was willing to acknowledge was that the child had suffered "severe neck injuries." When Gatestone said that §201a could not be applied to the video in question because it did not show anybody's face, she replied that this had "yet to be decided," and that the raid was based on an "initial suspicion." Gatestone then mentioned that Kordewiner, instead of uploading the video anonymously (which would have been easy for him to do), had uploaded it to his YouTube channel, along with his full name and address, rendering the raid's stated goal of "finding evidence" not merely disproportionate but entirely unnecessary. Frombach said that she was not allowed to "comment on details of an ongoing investigation," but that she could "guarantee" that the search warrant had been "approved by a judge."

    How can any journalist, under such censorship, report the news? Would it be illegal to film the scene of a terrorist attack? Frombach said that she could "not tell" whether this would still be legal in today's Germany. "I can only judge specific cases, not ones that lie in the future," she said.

    The libertarian website Achse des Guten (Axis of the Good) was the first media outlet to report the raid. Two days later, the daily Hamburger Abendblatt wrote:

    "Hamburg's state prosecutor rabidly prosecutes a blogger who has published pictures of the tragedy at Jungfernstieg... The raid was based on paragraph 201a, a law that the council of the press and journalist associations view as being problematic with regard to free reporting."

    The Abendblatt criticized the "nebulous phrasing" of the law and the "even more nebulous interpretation by the state prosecutor," stating, "The law stipulates that no pictures of helpless persons may be taken. However, the cell phone footage does not show such persons."

    According to the Abendblatt, sources "from within the security apparatus" had been "surprised" by the raids of the homes of the blogger and Daniel J. The state prosecutor who ordered the raids had been "very hot on this case," these sources said, and was "shooting out of cannons into sparrows... it is surprising how quickly the search warrant was issued, given the high obstacles we face every day, even when dealing with serious crime."

    In an accompanying comment, Abendblatt editor Matthias Iken called the raid "foolish," because "it supports the conspiracy theories of right-wingers." Where, he asked, "do the prohibitions start? And where do they stop?"

    In the meantime, the incriminated video has been deleted from all German websites and YouTube channels (although it can still be found on websites that are out of reach of the German authorities)."



    While people bleat about Trump's "attack on the press" you've got real fascism and censorship brewing in Germany. All hail the state, it knows best, can't let the citizenry decide for themselves. Can't say that I'm shocked.

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    This would be so much more convincing if the comments on that site didn't make so blatantly clear that the real purpose of this 'fight against censorship' is to show that 'niggers are violent animals who have no place in Europe'.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    The author of the article also is a piece of work if you look at his Twitter postings.
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    Yeah... Germany isn't where fascism is making a return right now.
    It's getting closer now, the fear that we have held off for so long
    It's getting closer now to where we know there can be no return
    It's makes no sense to me, what has been set in motion here today
    It makes no sense anymore, was it too little, too late? Or too much too fast?

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    I can't stop laughing. Lewk you sad fucking groyper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Yeah... Germany isn't where fascism is making a return right now.
    In one place the President is saying mean things about the press. In another, actual censorship is occurring.

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    Go and look up what fascism means, you muppet. How are you still this bad at posting after 15 years?

    I refuse to engage with motherfuckers who just sit there pretending they don't know what words mean.
    It's getting closer now, the fear that we have held off for so long
    It's getting closer now to where we know there can be no return
    It's makes no sense to me, what has been set in motion here today
    It makes no sense anymore, was it too little, too late? Or too much too fast?

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    You're literally supporting the party that's running multiple Nazis in 2018 and you're going to criticize Germany?
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Go and look up what fascism means, you muppet. How are you still this bad at posting after 15 years?

    I refuse to engage with motherfuckers who just sit there pretending they don't know what words mean.
    Are you daft? Control of the press and restriction of liberty is how fascism starts. Are you really going to sit here and declare that restricting the freedom of the press is not part of what a fascist government would do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You're literally supporting the party that's running multiple Nazis in 2018 and you're going to criticize Germany?
    Psssh they no more represent the GOP than the open communists who are running under the Democrat ticket. Not to mention Germany's recent anti-Israel votes at the UN or the recent 10ish years or so of attempting bully its smaller neighbors. Hell Germany was forcefully trying to get Eastern European countries in line with Merkels migrant insanity. There is a shit ton to criticize Germany on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Psssh they no more represent the GOP than the open communists who are running under the Democrat ticket. Not to mention Germany's recent anti-Israel votes at the UN or the recent 10ish years or so of attempting bully its smaller neighbors. Hell Germany was forcefully trying to get Eastern European countries in line with Merkels migrant insanity. There is a shit ton to criticize Germany on.
    Socialists != communists. And it doesn't change the fact that Nazis are running as Republicans and the Republican Party is letting it happen. That's not to mention GOP politicians like Steve King, who are little removed from being Nazis themselves.

    You're really going to equate some mild criticism of Israel at the UN with Nazism? Seriously, Lewk?

    Didn't take you long to get to your real problem with Germany: insufficiently fascist policies when dealing with foreigners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Are you daft? Control of the press and restriction of liberty is how fascism starts.
    No, a populist authoritarian strong man riding into office on a wave of racial resentment and hyper-nationalism, who then begins demolishing democratic norms and actively persecuting minorities. What's going on the boarder and with ICE? That right there is how fascism starts.

    Are you really going to sit here and declare that restricting the freedom of the press is not part of what a fascist government would do?
    Of course it is, but that doesn't mean that restricting the press is is unique to fascism or that it inevitably leads to fascism, and the motivation in this case hardly seems to point to the imminent coming of fascism in Germany.

    Hell one of the first things the allies did at the end of the war was to shut down all media outlets owned by various branches of the Nazi party.
    It's getting closer now, the fear that we have held off for so long
    It's getting closer now to where we know there can be no return
    It's makes no sense to me, what has been set in motion here today
    It makes no sense anymore, was it too little, too late? Or too much too fast?

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