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    Quote Originally Posted by BBC
    Why is Canada legalising cannabis?

    Legalisation fulfils a 2015 campaign promise by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the leader of the governing Liberal Party.

    The prime minister has argued that Canada's nearly century-old laws criminalising use of the drug have been ineffective, given that Canadians are still among the world's heaviest users.

    He said the new law is designed to keep drugs out of the hands of minors and profits out of the hands of criminals.

    The federal government also predicts it will raise $400m a year in tax revenues on the sale of cannabis.

    Cannabis possession first became a crime in Canada in 1923 but medical use has been legal since 2001.

    Canada follows in the footsteps of Uruguay, which became the first country in the world to legalise the sale of cannabis for recreational use in 2013. A number of US states have also voted to end prohibition.

    Medical marijuana is also gaining ground in many European countries.
    Overall a good thing I feel.
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    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

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    Cannabis and tobacco should be treated exactly the same - strongly discouraged, banned in public places, banned in front of children, but legal at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    Overall a good thing I feel.
    No, you still can't go.

    But I have a conference in Toronto to look forward to
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Cannabis and tobacco should be treated exactly the same
    Tobacco should be illegal, IMHO, strictly because it's so addictive.
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    Aboot time, guy, eh?

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    Good job Canada!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Cannabis and tobacco should be treated exactly the same - strongly discouraged, banned in public places, banned in front of children, but legal at home.
    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Tobacco should be illegal, IMHO, strictly because it's so addictive.
    But alcohol is ok? Also not sure how you ban something "in front of children" but make it legal at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Tobacco should be illegal, IMHO, strictly because it's so addictive.
    How about no. End the war on drugs but start a war on tobacco? Nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    How about no. End the war on drugs but start a war on tobacco? Nonsense.
    How about free choice is the key to everything, and addiction, at the level of nicotine, robs you of that. How the fuck can you endorse a product that massively addicts its users? Making nicotine the illegal drug that it should be doesn't mean we should continue the lunacy of the War on Drugs. But it does mean we don't sell the shit in stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    But alcohol is ok? Also not sure how you ban something "in front of children" but make it legal at home.
    Sigh. Do you not know that alcohol is nowhere near as addictive as nicotine? Everyone gets addicted to nicotine, but only a minority become alcoholics. And I don't know what you are talking about banning in front of children but legal at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Sigh. Do you not know that alcohol is nowhere near as addictive as nicotine? Everyone gets addicted to nicotine, but only a minority become alcoholics. And I don't know what you are talking about banning in front of children but legal at home.
    No, not "everyone" who smokes tobacco gets addicted to nicotene. Just as not "everyone" who drinks alcohol becomes an alcoholic.

    I've known plenty of recreational or social smokers that aren't addicted to tobacco. It's probably easier to be a drinker than a smoker, due to today's socio-cultural norms. Plenty of cocktail parties, beer laden tail gate parties, or golf outings with binge drinkers and on-the-verge alcohol addicts, many of whom drive away intoxicated with altered judgement and cause accidents (but second hand smoke is worse?) Weird way to support Uber or self-driving cars as a "health initiative" for drinkers, huh.

    Legal at home was a reply to Rand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    No, not "everyone" who smokes tobacco gets addicted to nicotene. Just as not "everyone" who drinks alcohol becomes an alcoholic.

    I've known plenty of recreational or social smokers that aren't addicted to tobacco. It's probably easier to be a drinker than a smoker, due to today's socio-cultural norms. Plenty of cocktail parties, beer laden tail gate parties, or golf outings with binge drinkers and on-the-verge alcohol addicts, many of whom drive away intoxicated with altered judgement and cause accidents (but second hand smoke is worse?) Weird way to support Uber or self-driving cars as a "health initiative" for drinkers, huh.

    Legal at home was a reply to Rand.
    I knew plenty of "social smokers" when I was young, and every one of them became a "regular smoker" aka addict. The addiction is stronger with some than others, but I call BS on the myth of the smoker who just has a cigarette casually, once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I knew plenty of "social smokers" when I was young, and every one of them became a "regular smoker" aka addict. The addiction is stronger with some than others, but I call BS on the myth of the smoker who just has a cigarette casually, once in a while.
    And I call BS on your idea that prohibition solves addiction problems.

    Might as well ban the internet because your kids are most likely addicted to their screens and smart phones, with proven negative health impacts such as high rates of anxiety, depression and suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    How about free choice is the key to everything, and addiction, at the level of nicotine, robs you of that. How the fuck can you endorse a product that massively addicts its users? Making nicotine the illegal drug that it should be doesn't mean we should continue the lunacy of the War on Drugs. But it does mean we don't sell the shit in stores.
    Plenty of people have quit smoking. You still have free will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Cannabis and tobacco should be treated exactly the same - strongly discouraged, banned in public places, banned in front of children, but legal at home.
    Agreed

    ETA: But with added impairment checks as with alcohol, such as being under the influence while driving or being a professional where impairment has an impact such as pilots or operators of heavy machinery.


    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I knew plenty of "social smokers" when I was young, and every one of them became a "regular smoker" aka addict. The addiction is stronger with some than others, but I call BS on the myth of the smoker who just has a cigarette casually, once in a while.
    Sorry Choobs, but I'm one of those people.

    For ten years, from the age of 18 to 28, I was a casual smoker - only smoking when out in pubs and bars socially or with friends at home having a drink, and never at any other time - it became a sort of self-imposed rule. While on a trip to south america and hiking at altitude, I noticed others on the trip who were much older than me were struggling less with being out of breath. I put that down to smoking having a negative impact on my breathing abilities, even though only a casual smoker. I gave up on the spot, didn't touch another cigarette, and didn't miss smoking afterward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    But alcohol is ok? Also not sure how you ban something "in front of children" but make it legal at home.
    Pornography is legal at home but I wouldn't show it to children. Treat second hand smoke in front of children as child abuse but have it legal at home so long as there are no kids present.

    Pollute your own lungs at home I don't give a shit. Don't pollute innocent kids with that poison. The fact they may be your kids doesn't give you a right to do so any more than it would give you a right to inject children with cocaine.
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