https://www.news.com.au/world/pacifi...607a9ec426a734
Hinted about it on social media days before. Posted about it online moments before the shooting, and livestreamed much of it. 4 people arrested.
https://www.news.com.au/world/pacifi...607a9ec426a734
Hinted about it on social media days before. Posted about it online moments before the shooting, and livestreamed much of it. 4 people arrested.
Last edited by Aimless; 03-15-2019 at 06:37 AM.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Absolutely shocking act of terrorism.
Congratulations America
At least 49 dead. Unbelievable statement even if you consider that this man is one of the most blatantly racist politicians in the anglosphere:
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The killers "manifesto" is a contradictory mess that's full of meme copies and references while praising Trumps racism, it's like reading something that Lewk wrote.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
It's really not though. People like Lewk help create the climate of dehumanization, but Lewk isn't actually a murderer or terrorist. People like Lewk prefer to have others, eg. an authoritarian govt, do the dirty work. Anyway, never mind Lewk, I'm more concerned about what this will mean for ordinary people in the west.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
What a horrific tragedy and a senseless, cowardly terrorist attack. There are just no words.
"When I meet God, I am going to ask him two questions: Why relativity? And why turbulence? I really believe he will have an answer for the first." - Werner Heisenberg (maybe)
Terrible tragedy and terrorist atrocity
Aimless WTAF!? That is an unbelievable response by that Senator. Worth noting that's the Senator who was famously elected after getting 19 votes in the entire state thanks to your beloved proportional voting system. 19 votes. Not 1900, not 19k but 19.
Amidst all the outpouring of support, we have this:
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Controversies. This is how you legitimize hate.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
No, you just support politicians who say Muslims don't belong, that they're trying to destroy the Western way of life, and then give any nutjob who wants one a semi-automatic gun. What can possibly go wrong.
Hope is the denial of reality
I confess I'm a little puzzled by the difficulties YT seems to be having with keeping the attacker's video off the platform. Their algorithms can recognize a quick snippet of a song playing in the background of a video recorded with a shitty smartphone, so I'm not sure whether their difficulties are really technical in nature or whether they just reflect a decision not to prioritize this issue.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
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Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 03-16-2019 at 09:34 PM.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
It's almost as if there is a thing called the internet that people like this terrorist frequent.
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Last edited by Loki; 03-17-2019 at 03:04 AM.
Hope is the denial of reality
Well I imagine this is a case of Yes and No.
They're probably trying to prioritise the issue right now because its appalling.
They're probably not trying to prioritise the issue in the past because its rare.
The technology to recognise the music exists. The technology to recognise the shooting may not exist and so it may be difficult to play whack-a-mole with it.
The technology exists, though it may obviously need some tweaking. Facebook claims to have blocked 1.2 million out of 1.5 million removed videos at upload:
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Not sure what the stats are for YT but if you can recognize distorted audio snippets of a song then you should be able to find a way to recognize audio snippets from a long video of a massacre.
YT's algorithms have previously been found to operate in a way that facilitates exposure to increasingly extremist content. They've made some small efforts to ameliorate that problem, but it's not like they're going to stop autoplaying whatever they think you might like next just because of online radicalization, even though YT appears to feature prominently in the online radicalization of RW extremists (and also in the more mild redpilling of mundane xenophobes). Apart from the issue of radicalization etc, there's the issue of the privacy & dignity of victims and their loved ones.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I realize that. However it goes a lot further than that. I have no desire to see those images, but how come I can't readily see them if I wanted to?
Congratulations America
What makes you think freedom of speech is absolute and without restriction? What makes you think one person's right to freedom of speech is permitted to infringe on others' rights to dignity and privacy? What makes you think that absolute freedom of speech applies to a private platform? It appears as if all you have to bring to the discussion are asinine straw man arguments that only expose your own lack of understanding.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Is it possible you've become selectively illiterate or is this yet another example of you confusing reality with imaginary conversations you've had in your own head? Either way, I have no intention of participating in your weird-ass borderline panto. When you're ready to discuss real conversations, let me know. If you just want to wank to your imaginary straw men, leave me out of it.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Speaking of freedom of speech how do you feel about NZ wanting data about who is uploading/downloading footage of the video on other platforms like kiwi farm?
They'd have to justify it under their laws. Given that we're talking about identifying hundreds of thousands—if not millions—I don't think it sounds reasonable. More reasonable, both practically and legally, to target platforms. Spreading the video is a clear violation of privacy rights, but a dragnet that risks inaccurately identifying hundreds of thousands of people is also a violation of privacy rights from which there is little part be gained. Better to start requiring platforms to take responsibility for their content, and to encourage them to adhere to some of the same standards as publishers.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."