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    I feel like I may have used that Kafka comparison a little prematurely, because, this shit's legit Kafkaesque:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/o...ice-raids.html

    If only they'd lived in Dreadtopia.
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    Are you surprised a government agency makes mistakes?

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    The one your idol is trying to empower?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Are you surprised a government agency makes mistakes?
    Of the kind described? Absolutely surprised yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Of the kind described? Absolutely surprised yes.
    100% agreed.

    For ICE to have arrested 3,500 American citizens in Texas alone is unforgiveable and there should be a moratorium preventing any more arrests until they can figure out what has gone wrong and how they're going to prevent it happening in the future.
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    You guys have to remember that lewk doesnt give a shit about these mistakes. He thinks the death penalty works and needs used more often while ignoring that it has a greater than 0% record of killing innocent people. As long as the non-whites suffer most he is aok with it.
    Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 07-16-2019 at 02:29 AM.
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    The three countries with the largest economies all have the death penalty. We must be doing something right.

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    Obscene and outrageous. One example of why so many people think ICE should be disbanded and re-configured.

    It's bad enough that you can't get a driver's license renewed because your birth certificate is rejected (and you end up in ICE detention)....but ICE can also get access to state DL data bases, and use facial recognition to scan for people who 'look' like suspects, or have 'foreign sounding names'. Never mind that in several states (13?) it's perfectly legal to get a DL even if you're not a US citizen, including undocumented immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    The three countries with the largest economies all have the death penalty. We must be doing something right.
    Wut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veldan Rath View Post
    Wut?
    America, Japan and China are the top economic leaders of the world and all have the death penalty. Clearly the correlation is obvious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    America, Japan and China are the top economic leaders of the world and all have the death penalty. Clearly the correlation is obvious!
    Yet in spite of trying to reduce the number of people, not leading in GDP per capita. Or crime rates, which is more relevant.
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    Tracy Nuetzi, a Trump voter and resident of Florida, was an American citizen for 60 years, until the country decided she wasn’t.
    You reap what you sow.

    She ended up doing it all on her own, but she said she continues to believe Mr. Trump will “make America great again.” She intends to vote for him in 2020.
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    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    100% agreed.

    For ICE to have arrested 3,500 American citizens in Texas alone is unforgiveable and there should be a moratorium preventing any more arrests until they can figure out what has gone wrong and how they're going to prevent it happening in the future.
    You have to remember, even a single mistake is intolerable if it affects a white male (preferably a conservative one). If it affects anyone else, he doesn't care if we have millions of mistakes.
    Last edited by Loki; 07-24-2019 at 01:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You have to remember, even a single mistake is intolerable if it affects a while male (preferably a conservative one). If it affects anyone else, he doesn't care if we have millions of mistakes.
    Well indeed.

    Thousands of US citizens can be wrongly arrested by immigration [despite being citizens] but who cares they look ethnic.
    But if a woman says she's raped by a man she's probably lying and before we take any action we need to thoroughly make sure she's not lying, can't risk a mistake.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    This obscures some of the nuance in Lewk's analytical framework, which implements an intersectionality-of-hate approach that incorporates race, ethnicity, gender, presumed ideological affiliation and salience to various alt-right obsessions, with additional weighting based on repugnancy and, well, derpery.
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.2ad05a047c97

    It shouldn't take 3 weeks to confirm US Citizenship. And 'detention' conditions shouldn't be this horrible for anyone, regardless of citizenship.

    Also, are these Border Patrol *inland checkpoints* even legal? They were stopped 100 miles from the border on the suspicion of being *in* the US illegally, not crossing illegally. Sounds like racial profiling....
    Last edited by GGT; 07-25-2019 at 11:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
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    Also, are these Border Patrol *inland checkpoints* even legal? They were stopped 100 miles from the border on the suspicion of being *in* the US illegally, not crossing illegally. Sounds like racial profiling....
    As someone who lives in Texas every time I travel up from McAllen there's a border checkpoint. They ask every person who crosses if they are a US citizen and have dogs walk around all vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    As someone who lives in Texas every time I travel up from McAllen there's a border checkpoint. They ask every person who crosses if they are a US citizen and have dogs walk around all vehicles.
    And when a teenager shows proof that they're a US citizen, but is still detained by ICE, how can you claim "the system" is working?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    And when a teenager shows proof that they're a US citizen, but is still detained by ICE, how can you claim "the system" is working?
    "Are you surprised a government agency makes mistakes?"

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    Mistakes like this? Yes. ICE should take all due dilligence and an overwhelming presumption of innocence. If someone shows proof they're a citizen they should be released immediately, but they shouldn't even be detained unless ICE have PROOF they're not a citizen already. You don't detain without that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immi...like-immigrant

    Pfft a judge could've easily solved this problem by just deporting this brownie
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    How are you reading that? I'm getting a pop-up saying that websites blocked in the EU due to GDPR.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Incognito?

    Also if you put urls in Google translate going from Spanish to English you should be able to click on the result and open it that way
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Just disable Javascript
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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    I'm bemused why disabling Javascript works. It wouldn't strike me as a js issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Many sites use js to serve up gdpr-related notices and paywalls over their articles
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Mistakes like this? Yes. ICE should take all due dilligence and an overwhelming presumption of innocence. If someone shows proof they're a citizen they should be released immediately, but they shouldn't even be detained unless ICE have PROOF they're not a citizen already. You don't detain without that.
    Um - what? Two miles from the border you pull over a van with 20 people and most don't speak English and don't have any documentation. You want ICE to let them go because on an individual level they haven't been proven to not be a citizen? /boggle

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    Yes. There is no obligation on free men to carry documentation.

    What law has been broken? Since when has carrying documentation been required?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    So it looks like "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to brown people, it only applies to white rapists and traitors.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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