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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    So, what's the line going to be when you try and use this to harm him at the ballot box? "Corbyn is too chicken have this election we are now having, even though it is only happening because he agreed to have it, since we threw our own majority away due to our deep personal stupidity"
    No need to use this line then, it'd be a bit late then. Damaging his credibility now though works.

    Though to anyone who knows anything he'd have no credibility to damage but nevermind.
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  2. #32
    If a few stupid memes on twitter that everyone's going to forget in like a week are the price Corbyn has to pay to a) completely shut down Boris's government and b) get to choose the time of the next election to maximize your own advantage, then I'd say that was a good trade.

    I don't see what moves Boris has left at this point, his best bet is probably to just try and run out the clock, or hope the EU will veto and extension.
    One more summer and yet another, the more things change the more they stay the same
    Apathetic inaction is gaining traction, when the lost don't play they lose the game
    Don't fade out we'll go off script, the last scenes behind our silent lips, we're signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act
    Nobody's seen the first act of a hundred stories just like yours through the history of an endless war
    They've come back, signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act before

  3. #33
    If I was Boris's advisor I'd recommend using the nuclear option. Advise HMQ to refuse royal assent and send it back to the Commons. Let them VONC him if they wish to do so.
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    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  4. #34
    Amber Rudd quits.

    One more summer and yet another, the more things change the more they stay the same
    Apathetic inaction is gaining traction, when the lost don't play they lose the game
    Don't fade out we'll go off script, the last scenes behind our silent lips, we're signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act
    Nobody's seen the first act of a hundred stories just like yours through the history of an endless war
    They've come back, signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Amber Rudd quits.

    @RandBlade : Still happy with the chaos you voted for?
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

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    The inside of Randy's head right now:
    https://youtu.be/Wz_DNrKVrQ8
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  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    @RandBlade : Still happy with the chaos you voted for?
    Yes. Didn't understand why Boris appointed her, or why she accepted the appointment, it made no sense on both parts.
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    Greetings, citizen! THE COMPUTER has made you a protector of the underground city of ALPHA COMPLEX. You will have lots of fun rooting out Communist mutant traitors. The Computer says so.

  9. #39
    ROFLMAO that's good! That genuinely made me laugh!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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    I can see why the lore and iconography of Warhammer 40k would appeal to you.
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  11. #41
    The conservative party could be reduced to six grumpy old Etonians in a shed ranting about millennials surrendering to foreigners and Randblade would claim everything was proceeding just as planned.
    One more summer and yet another, the more things change the more they stay the same
    Apathetic inaction is gaining traction, when the lost don't play they lose the game
    Don't fade out we'll go off script, the last scenes behind our silent lips, we're signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act
    Nobody's seen the first act of a hundred stories just like yours through the history of an endless war
    They've come back, signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act before

  12. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    I can see why the lore and iconography of Warhammer 40k would appeal to you.
    I was always more a fan of Warhammer Fantasy Battles and its spin offs like Blood Bowl and Warhammer Quest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  13. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    If I was Boris's advisor I'd recommend using the nuclear option. Advise HMQ to refuse royal assent and send it back to the Commons. Let them VONC him if they wish to do so.
    I.e., destroy the very idea of parliamentary supremacy. Is there anything you wouldn't destroy for Brexit?
    Hope is the denial of reality

  14. #44
    Parliamentary sovereignty would still apply.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  15. #45
    Parliamentary sovereignty includes three elements, the Commons is the most important one and can ultimately override the other two, but it is one of three.

    If the House of Lords rejects a bill then the Commons overrides it via use of the Parliament Act then that doesn't undermine Parliamentary sovereignty either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  16. #46
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49625431

    First hints of the government's response, and it's the most Boris thing ever: Just wing it and sort of waffle on at people and hope they don't notice you have literally no plan and aren't doing the thing you said you'd do
    One more summer and yet another, the more things change the more they stay the same
    Apathetic inaction is gaining traction, when the lost don't play they lose the game
    Don't fade out we'll go off script, the last scenes behind our silent lips, we're signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act
    Nobody's seen the first act of a hundred stories just like yours through the history of an endless war
    They've come back, signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act before

  17. #47
    2nd attempt at a snap election failed. That's now Boris's sixth Commons defeat in the space of a week.

    He's making Theresa May look like a strong leader with a real ability to deliver by comparison.
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    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  18. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    2nd attempt at a snap election failed. That's now Boris's sixth Commons defeat in the space of a week.

    He's making Theresa May look like a strong leader with a real ability to deliver by comparison.
    That's ridiculous. First rule of politics is to know how to count and Boris hasn't got a majority and knows it. But he's not trying to hide from the voters.

    An election is needed to proceed. Then we will know how it's comparable to May.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  19. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    That's ridiculous. First rule of politics is to know how to count and Boris hasn't got a majority and knows it. But he's not trying to hide from the voters.
    If he knows he hasn't got the votes, then why did he put the motion forward in the first place? Maybe he can't count?

    Secondly, who's fault is it he doesn't have a majority, or rather, that he no longer has a majority?

    An election is needed to proceed. Then we will know how it's comparable to May.
    If he wants an election, he needs only submit to the demands of the opposition and can have an election, which is not a lot to ask since the opposition have graciously refined from VONCing his candy ass all over Whitehall. Wouldn't kill him, would it? Just accede to the requirements of Jeremy Corbyn (and also obey the fucking law), and boom: election. Shouldn't be too much to ask.

    I mean, as I understand it we can't call an election for five weeks now because he prorogued parliament but, again, whose genius idea was that?
    One more summer and yet another, the more things change the more they stay the same
    Apathetic inaction is gaining traction, when the lost don't play they lose the game
    Don't fade out we'll go off script, the last scenes behind our silent lips, we're signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act
    Nobody's seen the first act of a hundred stories just like yours through the history of an endless war
    They've come back, signed on for a sequel but nobody's seen the first act before

  20. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    If he knows he hasn't got the votes, then why did he put the motion forward in the first place? Maybe he can't count?

    Secondly, who's fault is it he doesn't have a majority, or rather, that he no longer has a majority?
    The only way to get an election is to have the motion passed and the motion can only be passed if its put forward.

    Its Theresa May and the rebels fault that he doesn't have an election.
    If he wants an election, he needs only submit to the demands of the opposition and can have an election, which is not a lot to ask since the opposition have graciously refined from VONCing his candy ass all over Whitehall. Wouldn't kill him, would it? Just accede to the requirements of Jeremy Corbyn (and also obey the fucking law), and boom: election. Shouldn't be too much to ask.

    I mean, as I understand it we can't call an election for five weeks now because he prorogued parliament but, again, whose genius idea was that?
    Which demands are that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Being upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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