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    Default Climate Refugees....

    In the US this is a recurring problem: millions of people evacuate for dangerous hurricanes, but they eventually return home and begin the rebuilding process. Zoning and building codes have gotten better, and federal funding helps, but that doesn't mean we're addressing the root problems; we're still *reacting* to Emergencies/Disasters but not trying to prevent or avoid them. Spinning wheels is expensive.

    At some point we'll have to admit that millions of people will become "Climate Refugees"; that it won't just happen within US borders, but the US will be considered a refuge by other nations, especially poorer ones (like Haiti, or the Bahamas). And that droughts in places like Syria can fuel a civil war, and the Amazon forest burning in Brazil can spark global problems, etc.

    What kind of policies can address this? It's a broad and open-ended question...ready, set, GO!
    Last edited by GGT; 09-04-2019 at 06:34 AM.

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    No takers? That's surprising since immigration is a hot topic in US and Europe. Coupled with extreme weather events and climate change....there will be hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people migrating, moving across borders, looking for new homes in the next decades.

    Parts of the Bahamas is destroyed, uninhabitable. They'll need to evacuate outside their country, at least for a while, and some may never go back. IMO the US should temporarily suspend their Visa requirements, and not just for critically injured -- and re-evaluate how long emergency humanitarian waivers last before they can apply for citizenship. That's just one policy aspect....but it's controversial in the Trump era.

    Eventually we'll have another administration, but immigration will still be a hot topic. Shouldn't we have a long-term plan that addresses population changes?

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    Ugh I feel bad for the poor kids who have been brainwashed into thinking they have no future. You can tell she fully believes the whole steaming load of crap they've fed her.

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    She's been diagnosed with several disorders that explain her behavior a whole lot better than actual climate change.
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    "...and fairy tails of eternal economic growth".
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    Lewk, climate science isn't a "steaming load of crap". You should know that since you live in Texas and work in Insurance.

    But even if *you* want to deny the science, you can't blame kids for seeing the realities of flooding/rebuilding, loss of arable land and food crops, massive wildfires, shrinking coastlines, etc. and connecting that to policies. They're right to worry about their future (and the problems created by their elders) since they'll be the ones moving/migrating and trying to adapt. The US (and Texas) won't be exempt just because they're BIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/...ingraham-trump


    Lewk, climate science isn't a "steaming load of crap". You should know that since you live in Texas and work in Insurance.

    But even if *you* want to deny the science, you can't blame kids for seeing the realities of flooding/rebuilding, loss of arable land and food crops, massive wildfires, shrinking coastlines, etc. and connecting that to policies. They're right to worry about their future (and the problems created by their elders) since they'll be the ones moving/migrating and trying to adapt. The US (and Texas) won't be exempt just because they're BIG.
    Kids shouldn't be terrified thinking they only have a decade or two to live. Even if you believe the climate models (which have often been wrong to the degree of warming that was predicted) it wouldn't lead to massive population decline in humanity.

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    I think they're looking beyond just the next two decades, and wondering what life will be like when they're "old". Not that they'll die young, or that there will be a massive decline in population.

    Can't fault youth for being clear-eyed and forward-looking, that's what we teach our children. Maybe they're angry that adults (who control policy) don't practice what we preach, and aren't doing enough....or that climate change *deniers* like you will ignore or disbelieve science because the models change over time.

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