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  1. #91
    Immigration is not Brexit though and Brexit will do nothing to stop migration from non-EU nations which has been getting liberalised since Boris and Patel took over as they both argued for during the referendum campaign.

    This is a cheeky bit of fun from a 15 year old kid: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/102720...ts-terrorists/
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  2. #92
    Immigration is not Brexit though and Brexit will do nothing to stop migration from non-EU nations which has been getting liberalised since Boris and Patel took over as they both argued for during the referendum campaign.

    This is a cheeky bit of fun from a 15 year old kid: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/102720...ts-terrorists/
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  3. #93
    That's verging on newspeak and outright lying, given that brexit will as a matter of fact end freedom of movement for a very large group of likely immigrants—so it is objectively a restriction on immigration—and there's no planned lowering of the minimum income threshold for prospective migrants.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  4. #94
    It will take back control over half the migrants who come here yes from 7% of the global population, it has no impact on 93% of the global population though - whether from the Middle East, Far East, Africa, North or South America or Oceania.

    The minimum income threshold is nothing special for skilled migrants and is quite comparable to other nations. Not many countries seek to import unskilled minimum wage migrants.
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  5. #95
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    It will take back control over half the migrants who come here yes from 7% of the global population, it has no impact on 93% of the global population though - whether from the Middle East, Far East, Africa, North or South America or Oceania.
    The 7% and 93% figures are just simplistic global population breakdowns and do not take into account what actually matters in migratory terms; ie things like geographic proximity, ease of movement and relative economic disparity.
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    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    The 7% and 93% figures are just simplistic global population breakdowns and do not take into account what actually matters in migratory terms; ie things like geographic proximity, ease of movement and relative economic disparity.
    It is as silly as quoting numbers that prove that most immigrants to London are from the UK. But this is how Brexitards work; they faithfully follow the talking points of their leaders. Randblade hasn’t had an idea of his own in well over a decade. The amazing thing is that he constantly changes his mind and that he doesn’t seem to notice he’s defending something diametrically opposed to what he was defending just as fiercely the day before.
    Greece shows us that there is a kind of politician worse than the ones that break their election promises; the ones that keep their election promises.

  7. #97
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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  8. #98
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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  9. #99
    Lol: https://www.itv.com/news/2019-11-05/...says-watchdog/

    "Let's spend that money on the NHS instead!"
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  10. #100
    You can understand how they elected habitual liar Boris Johnson to lead them when you realize they can't not lie:

    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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  11. #101
    A trick Labour and Momentum have been using for years.

    You don't need to edit videos to see how absurd "we will negotiate a great new deal then campaign against it" is as a policy.
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  12. #102
    And, yet, that's precisely what they did—and then they continued to lie about it. Embarrassing. Almost as Embarrassing as being held to the same standards as Momentum :haha :
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  13. #103
    Who's lying? Its a video of Starmer flailing about trying to defend the indefensible, with an image of him at the end to demonstrate just how ludicrous and farcical his message of 'we will negotiate a deal then campaign against it' truly is.

    Yes its been edited which is kind of obvious but the words haven't changed at all and other parties do it and the gloves are off.

    There is no difference now between Momentum and Labour, they have taken over the Labour party wholesale. Its like trying to distinguish between the GOP and Tea Party.
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  14. #104
    Your willingness to defend lies is just getting boring now. The tweet claims that the video shows "Jeremy Corbyn's Brexit Minister can't or won't answer a simple question about Labour's position on Brexit". In reality, Starmer did answer the question—immediately. You may find the answer unsatisfactory, but the tweet—taken together with the edited video—is a lie. Granted, the current standard for Tories is to lie more brazenly—see eg. Johnson's lie about Turkey, his lie about Arcuri etc—but this is still pretty fucked up.
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  15. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    A trick Labour and Momentum have been using for years.

    You don't need to edit videos to see how absurd "we will negotiate a great new deal then campaign against it" is as a policy.
    Now in the whataboutism stage of Trumpism.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  16. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Your willingness to defend lies is just getting boring now. The tweet claims that the video shows "Jeremy Corbyn's Brexit Minister can't or won't answer a simple question about Labour's position on Brexit". In reality, Starmer did answer the question—immediately. You may find the answer unsatisfactory, but the tweet—taken together with the edited video—is a lie. Granted, the current standard for Tories is to lie more brazenly—see eg. Johnson's lie about Turkey, his lie about Arcuri etc—but this is still pretty fucked up.
    He replied in the original video he didn't answer the question.
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    I understood even in the edited version what his answer was.
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    And watered heaven with their tears:
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    Did he who made the lamb make thee?

  18. #108
    BXP caved in and going for a "unilateral leave alliance"

    In other words they're standing down against any Tory MPs and only standing against Remainer Parties MPs.
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  19. #109
    Christ Farage really is a snivelling little weasel isn't he.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  20. #110
    It will help defend a handful of South West seats versus the Lib Dems but besides that makes negligible difference.
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  21. #111
    I'll lend you my essence for your rusted throne, and you could bring back the light to the last home of civilisation without which I'm gone
    So take this godsoul to bring forth a new dawn, I'll forgive the death you've earned, the cities you've burned, the lessons we've learned
    For all that remains, just sacrifice me. I'll hide away in a castle on the sea.

  22. #112


    The pandering continues.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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  23. #113
    Pandering? That's not pandering, on the big news on that front page Liverpool did take a giant stride towards the title. Even if it was at Anfield beating the defending champions and main rivals is a fantastic result and even if it is only November being 8 points clear of Leicester and 9 points clear of City was a great result. We can't count our chickens yet, after past disappointments we know not to presume anything and need to push on until the end of the season.

    As for the controversy its bollocks. The ball hit Silva's arm before it hit Trent Alexander Arnold.
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  24. #114
    I understand you think you're being funny, but you're just being a fuckwit.
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  25. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    I suggested a handful of Lib Dem seats, 5 is top end of that.

    Half a dozen SNP seats difference is beyond what I would have thought. Not sure how many EC puts us down to, I would have thought we'd keep ~5 SCON seats before this, keeping 11 seems implausible. Then again SNP on 42 is below my expectations either way, we'll see.
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  26. #116
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    I understand you think you're being funny, but you're just being a fuckwit.
    Get over yourself sourpuss.
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  27. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Get over yourself sourpuss.
    I have a better idea: don't be a cretin who gobbles up a govt's cynical move to protect perpetrators from accountability and deny justice to people in NI in order get a few more votes. I mean, we know about your feelings about people with Irish accents, but just try to dial down the xenophobia a little.
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  28. #118
    I have no qualms about people with Irish accents and the government is proposing rectifying an anomoly in the law not denying justice. But why let facts get in the way of your ranting?
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  29. #119
    What utter BS. The UK is treaty-bound, under the ECHR, to thoroughly investigate and punish crimes committed by representatives of the state--such as the ones committed during the Troubles. Altering the HRA in this manner will cause a direct conflict with the UK's treaty obligations--the same obligations the Act is intended to enshrine in domestic UK law--and/or deny justice & closure to those affected by the crimes being investigated.
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  30. #120
    No it won't. You misunderstood the proposal.
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