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    Default Republicans—the hymenity

    Kentucky’s ex-governor pardoned a child rapist because the 9-year-old victim’s hymen was intact

    Republican politicians appear to have decidedly outdated and/or weird ideas about anatomy.
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    It's not just the politicians. You have to ask yourself if Kentuckians are a state of dumb ignorant shits, or sick fucks, or both? The fact that this guy was narrowly defeated is mind-boggling. And why there are no laws (as far as I am aware) protecting against frivolous pardons, is equally mind-boggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorNorton View Post
    It's not just the politicians. You have to ask yourself if Kentuckians are a state of dumb ignorant shits, or sick fucks, or both? The fact that this guy was narrowly defeated is mind-boggling. And why there are no laws (as far as I am aware) protecting against frivolous pardons, is equally mind-boggling.
    Because it helps both parties. The power of the pardon is a great kickback system.

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    In this case, the group benefiting from a Republican governor are pedophiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    In this case, the group benefiting from a Republican governor are pedophiles.
    In this case yes. In other cases its people on the FBI top 10 most wanted list. Pardons often suck especially lame duck ones.

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    Disgusting.

    And again its a shame America has a lame duck period. In the 21st century it should be possible to do away with that. Had Corbyn clearly won our election this month (thankfully he didn't) he could have been PM the very next day. While our legislature dissolves before an election (so during an election former MPs seeking re-election are legally banned from calling themselves MPs, they're not MPs anymore) and only those who win election return to Parliament. The defeated ones don't return and get a chance to change the laws before the ones who have been elected take their seats.
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    That a politician pardons a depraved criminal is one thing - it happens from time to time, after all, and politicians from both parties do it (see eg. the President pardoning murderous sociopathic war-criminals). What surprised me was the staggering idiocy that was exposed by Bevin's motivation to pardon this criminal. But, then again, he belongs to the social group that gave us the following gem: "If it’s legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    "If it’s legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down."
    That quote is talking about pregnancy, not the rape itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    That quote is talking about pregnancy, not the rape itself.
    And that makes it better!?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    That quote is talking about pregnancy, not the rape itself.
    I can't believe you actually thought that "clarification" would make the statement not be stupid, when the stupid thing is the absolutely mind-bogglingly dumbfuck belief that women who are raped don't need abortions because their bodies can deliberately prevent pregnancies that may result from rape. I am genuinely shocked that even you would deliberately type out something so stupid - in defense of something so stupid - and then hit "post reply. My god. Just so, so much fremdschämen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    That quote is talking about pregnancy, not the rape itself.
    It clearly is talking about rape, you fucking twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorNorton View Post
    It clearly is talking about rape, you fucking twat.
    It's talking about both. His creepy nonsense about "legitimate rape" understandably received a lot of criticism, but it's the claim about magic anti-rape pregnancy prevention functions that is really stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    I can't believe you actually thought that "clarification" would make the statement not be stupid, when the stupid thing is the absolutely mind-bogglingly dumbfuck belief that women who are raped don't need abortions because their bodies can deliberately prevent pregnancies that may result from rape. I am genuinely shocked that even you would deliberately type out something so stupid - in defense of something so stupid - and then hit "post reply. My god. Just so, so much fremdschämen.
    I'm not defending the legitimacy of using the phrase that way, I'm clarifying that there was no intent to state that the human body "shuts down rape" which is how the quote can often be perceived devoid of context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    I'm not defending the legitimacy of using the phrase that way, I'm clarifying that there was no intent to state that the human body "shuts down rape" which is how the quote can often be perceived devoid of context.
    Oh my god you ridiculous numpty, no, with or without context the quote is fucking dumb because it indicates that Akin believes that women who are raped don't need abortions because their bodies can magically prevent rapes from leading to pregnancies. The quote is dumb because it indicates that the person making the statement has an extremely dumb belief about the human body. How can you not understand that your attempts to "clarify" this extremely clear and extremely dumb statement only serve to make you look dumb? Lewk, come on. You have to be smarter than this I want to say I'm surprised that you are too confused to understand how dumb that is, but, in context, I guess it's not all that surprising.
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    The quote is out of context in anything other than an abortion debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    The quote is out of context in anything other than an abortion debate.
    No its not.

    Its entirely in context on debates about moronic attitudes.
    Its entirely in context on debates about misogynistic attitudes.
    Its entirely in context on debates about scientific attitudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    No its not.

    Its entirely in context on debates about moronic attitudes.
    Its entirely in context on debates about misogynistic attitudes.
    Its entirely in context on debates about scientific attitudes.
    Only if its provided with context, otherwise the point is to deliberately misinterpret and mislead.

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    No, the comment was moronic, misogynistic and unscientific on its own right. No context justifies it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Only if its provided with context, otherwise the point is to deliberately misinterpret and mislead.
    Ridiculous. It was presented as a piece of evidence about the educational and intellectual quality of those the Republican party elects (and puts on national science committees to boot). It does not misinterpret or mislead in any fashion at all as such a piece of evidence, whether presented "in context" (context of what, the world wonders) or not. There is no biological defense against conception (or carrying to term) from a sexual assault. It was either a deliberate lie, an invented post-hoc rationalization to defend a position he already wanted to take, or inexcusable ignorance and it is equally damning regardless.

    I'm clarifying that there was no intent to state that the human body "shuts down rape"
    And now you're doing the same thing Akin did, inventing things. He didn't say the above, no. Nor was there any allegation here that he did. The focus here is on his claim (which he most certainly did intend to state) that the human body "shuts down conception from rape" (which it manifestly does not and which he damn well should have known and probably did know and chose to ignore) along with some side-attention to the idea that some or a lot of rape isn't real rape and its attendant implication that women so victimized did in fact "want it" and weren't "legitimately raped" if they got pregnant despite the supposed "defense" against conception from rape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    No, the comment was moronic, misogynistic and unscientific on its own right. No context justifies it.
    "That quote is talking about pregnancy, not the rape itself."

    "I'm not defending the legitimacy of using the phrase that way, I'm clarifying that there was no intent to state that the human body "shuts down rape" which is how the quote can often be perceived devoid of context."

    1. Is the quote talking about shutting down rape or is it talking about pregnancy from rape?

    2. For the person not clued in on the broader discussion, could a reasonable person infer that the quote be about rape and not pregnancy?

    Answer those questions and come back to me on what your beef is with providing clarity around the quote.

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    Nobody here is confused about the meaning of Akin's statement but you. The meaning is clear without context, and the statement only looks more stupid and gross when put into context. Even Akin walked it back, once it became clear that Evangelical biology wasn't selling as well as he'd expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    "That quote is talking about pregnancy, not the rape itself."

    "I'm not defending the legitimacy of using the phrase that way, I'm clarifying that there was no intent to state that the human body "shuts down rape" which is how the quote can often be perceived devoid of context."

    1. Is the quote talking about shutting down rape or is it talking about pregnancy from rape?

    2. For the person not clued in on the broader discussion, could a reasonable person infer that the quote be about rape and not pregnancy?

    Answer those questions and come back to me on what your beef is with providing clarity around the quote.
    You are the only one here who has been trying to make what he said about being able to prevent rape. And you've been doing it since he first made the remarks. I went back to check my memory. Everyone on here knows I don't make many threads. But I'm the one who posted the thread on his comments back then. You posted even back then that you only ever saw people talking about what's rape then despite the fact that you were posting in MY thread and I was absolutely clear from that OP that I was talking about his idiocy/ignorance about conception. Stop being a shill, Lewk.
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    The FBI is now investigating Bevin's bizarre pardons.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentuck...n-report-says/

    As for the rest of it....anyone else notice those twisted ideas about sex and science (including rape) always come from Republicans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    The FBI is now investigating Bevin's bizarre pardons.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentuck...n-report-says/

    As for the rest of it....anyone else notice those twisted ideas about sex and science (including rape) always come from Republicans?
    This didn't get created by a conservative...

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/consent...about-consent/

    Not to mention the many folks on this board who thought a 13 year old child could consent to being drugged and sodomized by Polanski.

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    Are you going through some sort of psychotic episode?
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    His life is some sort of psychotic episode.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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    I'm just trying to figure out what makes him think many people on this forum believe it's okay for an adult to rape a thirteen year old. Even with someone playing devil's advocate re. consent, that sounds like a stretch, and, a priori, the only person I'd expect to sincerely argue in favour of adults preying on 13-year-olds is the Evangelical misogynist creep that defended Roy Moore. Is Lewk breaking with his Evangelical pro-child-molesting roots? Or is he just making an exception for Polanski because he's some sort of confused 30-y-o boomer who thinks liberals are in love with Polanski?
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

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    Considering his long history of projection, his fixation on child rape is a bit of a concern.
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    I don't think anyone here has ever defended Polanski or said that Polandski's victims consented.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
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