Relatives of mine are marooned on Aruba. They'd need to get back to Boston but failed to catch the last plane.Originally Posted by Hazir
Relatives of mine are marooned on Aruba. They'd need to get back to Boston but failed to catch the last plane.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
They can’t fly to Toronto either? (Presuming they reside in Boston)
Congratulations America
They tried.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
How is the situation in Aruba? I've not heard anything from there, its unpleasant to be ever marooned anywhere but there are certainly worse places you could be stuck and they might be better off there than in Boston. Hope they're not stuck for long.
Well, they managed to get places on a flight out. On April, 1st, though.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
My mother will be visiting, hopefully, unless they decide to lock down sthlm before then. I think her reasoning was that, if she stays in sthlm, the best case scenario is she doesn't see the baby for several months, and the worst case scenario is she doesn't see the baby ever again. She doesn't want to get stuck here but that's a distinct possibility. I'm quite torn; in many respects the safest strategy is to stay put, but that may not be feasible for her for very long b/c frankly she's living on her own with no-one around to help, in a region that's almost certainly going to be overwhelmed by severely ill patients within the next few weeks. Coming here has its own risks - both from travelling (even if she avoids public transportation and goes via a less busy domestic airport) and due to exposure to, well, me - but the likelihood of avoiding infection in sthlm is shrinking by the day. Anyway, I neither can nor want to say no - I want my mother here, and I'm glad she wants to be here.
Meanwhile, the Swedish authorities' response continues to disappoint.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
It sounds quite horrible to have to make a choice between options that have no upsides. I would feel very conflicted about letting her stay with you as well. Is renting airbnb accommodation for her near you an option. It’s still not good but better than the stress of you possibly being the one who infects her.
Congratulations America
Our HOA has a nice room nearby that's often available for renting, hoping we can use that. Hope you get back safe
meanwhile, the best smartest people have a message for the US:
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Run the numbers.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Somebodies not told Sen Ron Johnson who the 3% to 4% of the population he's prepared to see die would have voted for if they hadn't been prematurely killed by his callousness.Our HOA has a nice room nearby that's often available for renting, hoping we can use that. Hope you get back safe
meanwhile, the best smartest people have a message for the US:
Twitter Link
Run the numbers.
So, a few years ago my mother fell and badly broke her knee. Since Dad was still working full-time and I mostly work evenings I moved back in with them to help out. Last summer they finished a remodel to make the house more handicap-friendly. I was going to move out then but we all agreed it didn't make a lot of financial sense for me at the time. We found out on the 5th that someone in my mother's social circle was on that cruise ship that sat outside SF (still on it, mind you, not someone who had disembarked from it at an earlier point but someone who was in quarantine-at-sea). That sent my Dad's paranoia into overdrive. He's convinced that he's going to die if he gets the virus (he's 70 but in excellent health. Never even gets a sniffle when I or my mother being home colds and flus) The next day he told me I had to either quit my job so the house could be isolated or I had to move out within ten days. I made his deadline by one day, though I'm now looking for a roommate because the best affordable option I could get in that time-frame was a 2br on a six-month lease.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Headline of the day.
The quote is right there... "no more than 3.4 percent of our population... probably far less"
It's obvious from that statement that he didn't realize at first that 3.4% of the population is a very large quantity, as is, indeed, 1% of the population.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
After the spring breakers helped our crowded beaches go facepalming viral cities all around Tampa Bay have finally decided to close the beaches. Guess they had to wait for those hotel reservations to get filled first...
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
No offense, LF, but your dad sounds like a dick.
"When I meet God, I am going to ask him two questions: Why relativity? And why turbulence? I really believe he will have an answer for the first." - Werner Heisenberg (maybe)
And that's putting it friendly.
Congratulations America
That's a horrible situation LF but it is a horrible lose-lose situation for everyone. Our government's advice now is that the over 70s need to be isolated and that means the whole household needs isolating, anyone who is in a household with an over 70 should be working from home.
Being in excellent health doesn't protect you from this virus if you're over 70.
I just got kicked out my home by him. You're not going to offend me by calling him a dick. I've been calling him worse things, as have my brother and sister.
Unfortunately, I'm an assistant manager in a large "essential retail" store, these days. I can't work from home and we actually NEED to stay open for people.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Yeah so caught between a rock and a hard place. Horrible situation to be in.
My sister told my parents not to come over (they have kids with snotty noses), also because they're a risk group. I think this may be the time they start realising they're getting oldThough not over 70 yet.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
My parents are quarantined in France.
Michel Barnier has COVID. Get well soon.
Theres been more than a bit of inequality concerning testing in the US. The criteria to be tested is obviously to stringent still, but celebrities and athletes are being tested, even without symptoms.
Trump finally decided to address the problem, and his short response can be paraphrased into "tough shit".
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Anyone want to explain this one? WTF?
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It’s somewhat confusing. The only thing I understand is that Europeans brought epidemics to America must have been what she was thinking about. Some of those diseases were chinese in origin but I doubt that is what she is trying to say.
Congratulations America
So schools close tomorrow and I've absolutely no idea of the method and frequency in which school work for my two children will be provided and marked.
I don't blame the school for this. Their communication has been good so far. They were only formally notified of closure yesterday.
The government should have provided more notice, and when they made the announcement ensured that appropriate information was available there and then about what the expectations will be. Considering they've been planning for this eventuality for some time, I think it's ridiculous that parents and schools were given two days notice.
Am I being unreasonable?
In an ideal world there would have been more notice, but I don't think they could put it off any longer based on the numbers coming from London. I think they did well containing it without this measure as long as they did considering the whole of society is being upended in a way unprecedented since WWII. I'm glad my children are primary school and pre-school not secondary school, I feel awful that this has been necessary for those in Year 11 or doing A-Levels.
I'm glad mine are at primary as well, but I still don't understand why more notice wasn't given to allow for more provisions to be put in place. Come Monday morning next week I don't know what's happening and neither do my children. Will the be given work each day? How will work be marked? How will they contact their teacher? Are their teachers working full time? What are the expectation of parents?
I understand schools are staying open for children of "key workers", but that term wasn't even defined yesterday. The school wanted to send a letter out today with information about that but they couldn't because information still hadn't been provided.
Even with Boris in charge I expected more.
Edit:
My headteacher's latest tweet:
It’s looking like any update on the list of Key Workers will now occur tomorrow. That presents huge issues for us being ready Monday. So disappointing to have such a lack of clarity for everyone. Will be holding conversations at school tomorrow & awaiting a list for a 2nd day.
Last edited by gogobongopop; 03-19-2020 at 08:50 PM.
They gave even less notice here, but at least they had the list of key workers ready.
I am a bit confused that they closed schools in the UK, but not bars and restaurants right? Are events banned? Because those measures also cut down a lot of transmissions I'd think, but with less impact on families.
Keep on keepin' the beat alive!
Sort of, not exactly. The strong advice is to not go to bars and restaurants but they're not being ordered closed and all restaurants have been given planning permission to do deliveries. Most are closing but its not compelled. Events too it is recommended to cancel and they have been - in addition all Police, medical or other government-backed employees who support events have been cancelled thus effectively formally cancelling the events too.
The list of key workers is being amended as people are debating whom exactly a key worker is in these circumstances. NHS are obviously key workers, but what about care home workers? They must be too. Supermarket staff are key workers too it seems, as are their delivery drivers. But what about Amazon warehouse staff and delivery drivers? Are they Key Workers in this new world order - if people can't leave their house to get stuff then possibly?
This is all evolving in real time.
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