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  1. #1921
    A flashback to three days after the first cases in USA were tested positive.

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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  2. #1922
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  3. #1923
    Now a message from America's mayor:

    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  4. #1924
    Aunt and Uncle have tested positive. The uncle is blood and the oldest of my grandma's kids and by far the most Boomerish. Can't say I'm surprised in the slightest.
    Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 10-14-2020 at 01:18 AM.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  5. #1925
    Christ, the man looks like the walking undead.

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    Bars and restaurants are closing again tomorrow. I can't help but think that if the government had responded a bit more forcefully a few weeks ago when it was clear things were going wrong, this could have been avoided.
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  7. #1927
    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    Bars and restaurants are closing again tomorrow. I can't help but think that if the government had responded a bit more forcefully a few weeks ago when it was clear things were going wrong, this could have been avoided.
    This was the essence of my criticism of the British complacency wrt trends a while back: by the time you have evidence that's clear enough for partisan politics, you are already far too late. Many countries are loosening restrictions without adequate preparation for the inevitable surge in cases, and it feels like govts are focused on the politics—managing the public's perception in order to not come across as being too inept.

    Recently, two notable articles have been published about Sweden's pandemic response (both from an institutional perspective and from a social/cultural perspective):

    1. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...ierce-backlash

    2. https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

    The first article is a little weaker due to its reliance—for part of the piece—on statements from a group of dissidents whose credibility has taken some major hits due to the increasing prominence of, well, cranks. However, the key reporting in both articles is accurate, and they both paint a truly damning picture. There are some important things missing from both, such as an examination of deficient risk analysis at the public health agency (exemplified not only by public messaging and very foolish prioritization, but also by official communications with the civil contingencies agency, in which they answered questions about what potential risks they foresaw with "none"), recent excuses about lack of resources (esp. notable given earlier confidence that there were no risks worth considering), and the much more positive experiences of those few municipal & regional govts that deliberately deviated from the public health agency's official recommendations (and were severely criticized for it). The second article gives a clearer and more comprehensive overview.

    Cases are now once again—predictably—on the rise, and our preparedness is still inadequate. Political opposition remains confined to the far right and a small contingent of arch-conservative right-wing derpheads, but the media coverage has changed somewhat, with the most important broadsheet and the second most important tabloid taking a decidedly critical stance. One positive thing I've noticed is a change in discourse in the largest and most prominent covid-focused social media community for Swedish doctors—a greater focus on risks, miscalculations, experiences & evidence from other countries, and a much lower level of arrogant pro-govt exceptionalism. The latter does not seem to be a tenable public posture any longer. My mother is in Sthlm and the risk to her is going to be greater than it was in spring. My sister won't be going back to DC for several months at least, so that's a relief. My only real consolation for my own part is that I'll be on leave until January, and then probably have a few months of research that I can do from home or my office without a high risk of exposure, apart from occasional shifts on call. And my wife will hopefully be able to work from home or somewhere else that isn't her office starting next week. But, this fucking country man. Can't believe idiots all over the west are clamoring to have their govts emulate us.
    Last edited by Aimless; 10-14-2020 at 07:26 PM.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  8. #1928
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
    — Bill Gates

  9. #1929
    If Covid had hit in the 90s, this is hilarious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  10. #1930
    Texas has passed New Jersey in deaths this week, and I believe they are currently the only state still reporting 5000+ new cases a day, so they have a shot of catching New York before this is all said and done.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  11. #1931
    So. I am marrying my partner next weekend. In a small castle which is now a hotel near where she grew up and her folks still live, in a region of Scotland on the west coast, Argyll.

    Scotland has stricter Covid rules than much of England. We've been working through the complexities of the rules and how they apply to us and our small wedding party of close relatives and a couple of friends who are all flying in for the weekend. Fortunately this is not in the central belt of Scotland where Covid cases are higher in number and stricter rules are in force.

    We are marrying on the saturday, but everybody is flying in on the friday, and leaving on the monday, giving us the weekend for the celebrations.

    On the saturday, the day of the ceremony, we have two large rooms in the hotel, one for the ceremony itself, and one next door for the reception.
    - 15 people max are allowed to attend, excluding the bride, groom and registrar. This is fine, we had always planned a small ceremony, we don't like a fuss, and by sheer coincidence 15 is the exact number of folk on our invite list.
    - Bride and groom are exempt from wearing a mask during proceedings, everyone else should be wearing one, though I feel this may be relaxed on the day
    - For the reception, the rule of mixed households indoors applies, which means that a max of six people from two households can be together. For our party of 15 people, this means we can't all sit at one large table for reception dining as we had planned, and instead have to sit at three separate tables
    - All wedding celebrations must end by 10pm. Alcohol is not allowed to be served past that point
    - On the friday when people arrive, and on the sunday, premises including hotel restaurants are only allowed to serve indoors between 6am and 6pm, with no sale of alcohol allowed
    - Premises with a suitable licence can serve folk outdoors until 10pm, with alcohol allowed
    - We have a lovely restaurant booked on an island a ferry-ride away on the sunday for lunch to continue the celebrations. However the above rules mean we have to again sit at three separate tables, cannot consume alcohol (unless we venture outdoors for a drink, but this is Scotland at the end of October - it will be wet, cold and windy), and have to move on by 6pm

    We had until now given the chances of even being able to hold the wedding at 50%, with full lockdowns looming. We have over the last two weeks been close to postponing everything (or just pissing off to the local town hall and getting hitched without any family), but with my partner's mother in very poor health and unlikely to see another year, we are pressing on.

    We will make the most of it, and plan to have as much fun as possible given this fucking virus shit going on.

    I hope that in five years time, we will look back on the weekend with all the palava, the restrictions, the difficulty in consuming alcohol (my partner's family like a good drink, as do her and I to be fair), the inability for all of us to sit and mix and hug together, and just laugh.

    Last edited by Timbuk2; 10-17-2020 at 07:27 AM.
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    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  12. #1932
    Congrats on your impending nuptials, Timbuk! What a great venue!

    Not to be morbid, but you're lucky to be planning a wedding and not a funeral. Both come with all the restrictions and dilemmas...but only a wedding can make people attend a potential super-spreader event and think it might be a fun, or joyous trade-off.

    In the end, what matters most is that you married the love of your life....and you didn't expect others to risk their lives for sharing in that celebration. It's hard to get married in the New Cold War among First World nations during the Internet era enduring a global Pandemic, but it sounds like you've managed it quite well.

    Peace and Love

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