Some people simply fail at basic stochastics. Cumulative probabilities go right over their head.
Also, just today I argued with a Gonzo who insisted that only people who studied that very topic at university can know how well masks work and that he's of the definitive opinion that they don't work. Considering that he, in fact, did not partake in university at all this was a prime example of cognitive dissonance.
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
What a bloody idiot!
I hope this chart works properly here. Fascinating chart someone has done diving into the UK's testing data by date, highlighting in blue any area that has received 5+ positive tests.
Can see why lockdown is being extended locally in Leicester while being removed everywhere else.
Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer
Another Covid update as of 06/30. Deaths per million.
Belgium 852.03
United Kingdom 655.37
Spain 606.67
Italy 574.93
Sweden 521.45
France 444.11
USA 385.05
Ireland 357.47
Netherlands 354.42
Chile 297.66
Peru 297.1
Brazil 278.39
Ecuador 263.52
Even with your bullshit thinking that this is the best metric, USA shows the largest % jump since your last update.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Data is data.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Yes and the data you are demonstrating is that months into the pandemic the USA is the #1 place for deaths per million happening now. Proud of that are you?
Once again, not that this is some league sport.
Belgium 852.03 +4
United Kingdom 655.37 +14
Spain 606.67 + 0.5
Italy 574.93 + 0.8
Sweden 521.45 + 30
France 444.11
USA 385.05 +20
Ireland 357.47 +5
Netherlands 354.42 +1
Chile 297.66
Peru 297.1
Brazil 278.39
Ecuador 263.52 +16
Since you love data so, much here's the change since the last one of these you did, and you can see that the US number is increasing at the second highest rate after Sweden.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Now he's not going to keep posting the numbers anymore.
Though I do wonder how accurate the figures are. Certainly we know Spain's are dodgy but how accurate are America's? I've heard reports of certain States reporting not that many COVID deaths but 10x as many Pneumonia deaths as normal.
I seriously doubt anyone knows the true number of people that have died from this disease, and pretty much any given country is going to be under-reporting. Reported numbers should be taken as a lower limit.
When the sky above us fell
We descended into hell
Into kingdom come
Agreed 100%.
Over the long-term excess deaths will be the most reliable figure but it will take a lot of time for some countries to publish that data. Year-to-date in the UK ~80-90% of UK excess deaths figure falls within the confirmed COVID deaths figures. Not all countries are that accurate, while some countries are more accurate. It varies.
But again as you said well: Its not a fucking league sport.
Working off-site at a library that is pretty much a time capsule to the day we shutdown to the public, around the time that we could start to see the writing on the wall; our government wasn't prepared or equipped to deal with what was coming.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Number of hospitalizations in Texas quadrupled since June 1.
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavi...eaths/2399028/
Hope is the denial of reality
Official U.S. coronavirus death toll is ‘a substantial undercount’ of actual tally, Yale study finds
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/offi...ndroidappshare
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/article...oronavirus.php
Why are so many Americans against wearing face masks? Sad that it's become a political issue about personal Freeedom instead of public health.
No wonder the EU put us on their travel ban list.
Even VP Pence went to church -- with a large choir singing toward an even larger, unmasked crowd -- which violates the WH Corona Virus Task Force's own guidelines. Can't blame them since so many mixed messages come from our own government "leaders".
I think the US *religious leaders* are being selfish and reckless when they ignore science and public health, and continue to conduct large indoor services during a pandemic. It's not like there aren't safer options/alternatives. Even the Pope cancelled masses across the globe for a few months -- not because a government mandated it -- but because it protected people from harm.
My guess? Because wearing a face mask primarily protects other people from you and not you from other people.https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/article...oronavirus.php
Why are so many Americans against wearing face masks? Sad that it's become a political issue about personal Freeedom instead of public health.
No wonder the EU put us on their travel ban list.
Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"
Yeah, but that doesn't make sense from a societal level....where seat-belt or helmet laws, no shirt-no-shoes-no service, second hand smoke, and DUIs are acceptable public health codes that protect others from bad behavior.
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I see Trump has finally come out in favour of face masks as it makes him "look like the Lone Ranger".
I wonder how many Trumpists will suddenly reverse feret and be all in favour of face masks?
Trump seems like someone really slow and dimwitted who needs to be managed. Whichever one of his aides was smart enough to convince him that it made him look like the Lone Ranger - give that guy a medal.
Facemask.
The Lone Ranger
No, subpoena that mfer.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
The Trump campaign is selling official masks as of a few weeks ago, someone I know got one and it seems high quality.
Florida blew through our last record, recorded more than 10,000 positive cases in a single day.
Winning!
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Going over the numbers, every thursday report in June doubled (or worse) the previous Thursday. We're managing 70k tests a day, so our positive rate is climbing faster than our testing is, and a lot of testing sites are being managed by college volunteers, which will be returning to school in a few weeks. I wouldn't be surprised to see 20k+ a day before our testing setup collapses at the end of July.
July 4th is going to be a tipping point, then we have Disney opening up (refunded my annual passes today) and then the GOP convention after that. We may not peak with cases until the peak of hurricane season in October.
Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 07-02-2020 at 07:40 PM.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
In case 2020 hadn't jumped the shark enough . . .
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Love their hi-tech PPE.
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If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
'Pillar 2' testing info (community testing) now in the public domain as well as 'pillar 1' (hospital) previously. Can see why Leicester has been locked down.
Cops are thugs:
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"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Better call the police! :0
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