No.Originally Posted by gogobongopop
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The photos of the boxes for kids that are circulating are even worse. What a fucking waste of money.
“Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
— Bill Gates
Indeed. I saw one example yesterday that totaled £5.22 for a £30 allowance.
The amounts people are getting seems to wildly differ, which perhaps isn't a surprise since this is organised by local Councils not central government. Some people are saying they've received very little, while others are replying to say they have received a lot - probably different Councils.
Plus there's no guarantee the Council is actually spending £30 on the box. They're simply obliged to provide food, there's no source or citation I've seen saying how much they've spent, it almost certainly isn't £30 at that amount. Hard to know without more information about which Council is providing what box and how much they're spending on it.
Difficult to blame councils for goods and services provided under no-bid govt. tenders.
“Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
— Bill Gates
I believe different Councils are using different vendors. Different Councils are certainly getting very different results.
Seems like the Tweet that went viral that gogo is referring to about £5.22 costing £30 is fake news. Supposedly came from Chartswell according to the Tweeter and supposedly cost £30 according to her, but no evidence for that and lots of people saying otherwise.
Then it turns out if you go to Chartswell's own website then at list price (no negotiations) this is what they provide:
https://www.chartwellscanhelp.com/
2 Week Food Hamper - costing £23
2 x 200g Block of cheese
14 x Portions of fresh fruit: 6 x apples, 4 x easy peel oranges and 4 x bananas
16 x Portions of vegetables: cucumber, carrots, baking potatoes, sweet potatoes, lettuce, tomato
1kg x Wholemeal penne pasta
4 x Chopped tomato tins
2 x Tuna chunks in brine
1 x Loaf of bread
9 x Healthy snacks
Rather different to the shabby £5 image, and costing £23 not £30.
That's not too bad for £23. Probably how much a Sainsbury's shop for those items would cost.
Might cost you a bit less if you went to Tesco or Aldi
And a bit more if you went to Waitrose or M&S
Fake news is bad, mmm'k.
I guess it's difficult to prove. Just because a website says what -should- happen doesn't mean that's what -will- happen.
Then again, looking at the original poster, she says she's "left wing", so you know what those trouble makers are like.
But looking at Marcus "problem for Boris" Rashford's timeline, there seems to be a lot of stark examples. Again, could be dangerous left wingers, or, like, Antifa, trying to implement socialism through the back door.
At least they're getting something though. That's good, and it's not money that parents can blow on drugs and brothels. As we do in the UK.
Shrug.
There are lots of examples, but who knows who provided them and how. This isn't centrally contracted it is down to local schools. A lot of these photos look like some amateur bungling something together - and only spending a couple of pounds per head.
This supposedly came from Chartwells but then Chartwells actual hamper is completely different and they have replied to say that doesn't meet their specification and could they get details on which school it was so they can investigate - but no public response to that.
Heck if you wanted to spend £30 per head then Morrisons provide this, including free delivery.
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Someone is screwing someone for sure. This issue is separate from but related to the one I initially posted about.
“Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
— Bill Gates
Someone is. I hope we find out who.
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Does anyone have access to a longer clip, with the question and the full answer? Because I'm having a hard time accepting that the PM is still this ignorant about NRPF.
“Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
— Bill Gates
NRPF should apply to all non-citizens.
Anyone who wants to come here and fund themselves to do so should be welcomed as far as I'm concerned. But they should do so without public funds.
Once someone has been here contributing to society for years they ought to be entitled to claim citizenship, get the right to vote and recourse to public funds.
My question is why the PM appears to be so uninformed.
“Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
— Bill Gates
Without seeing the full question and answer I couldn't guess.
It's impossible to know what he knows besides what he says. He's a bit of a bumbler isn't he?
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