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  1. #31
    They are supposed to be loyal to the position, not the person, but with Trump who knows. They have done everything right so far in protecting the president elect. So thats a good sign.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    What makes you so sure? Besides wishful thinking that is.

    I think it'll probably be ok. But what if Trump refuses to leave office because he claims the election is fraudulent? Or if some states send electors that don't match their state's results? What then?
    If there is one thing the American people love more than their beloved president it is their beloved democracy.

    That Trump has lost, and indeed will have lost by every single one of the rules which lay the foundation of that Democracy come 8th December, will be acknowledged by the vast majority of the American republic including the GOP, a few cranks notwithstanding. In other words, the American right would rather lose their president than lose their democracy.

    Talk of 'civil war' is the talk of movies, the more outrageous kind. It's plain silly.

    Interesting reading of some of the facts around if Trump does indeed refuse to relinquish office here:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...president-coup
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    And who commands the secret service? The cabinet will presumably support Trump and not acknowledge they're not in power anymore. If they get conflicting orders who will decide which orders are valid?
    From 12 noon on 20th January 2021 Biden will do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  4. #34
    Shit just got real.

    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

  5. #35
    Trump is reportedly 'very aware' he lost the election but is putting up a fight as 'theater'

    So there you go. Sorry, no civil war this time, Trump knows he's out, he just doing this as publicity for a new media company and his 2024 presidential run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    Trump is reportedly 'very aware' he lost the election but is putting up a fight as 'theater'

    So there you go. Sorry, no civil war this time, Trump knows he's out, he just doing this as publicity for a new media company and his 2024 presidential run.
    So now people speculating about what other people think is evidence?
    Congratulations America

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    That Trump has lost, and indeed will have lost by every single one of the rules which lay the foundation of that Democracy come 8th December, will be acknowledged by the vast majority of the American republic including the GOP, a few cranks notwithstanding. In other words, the American right would rather lose their president than lose their democracy.

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    If there is one thing the American people love more than their beloved president it is their beloved democracy.
    Sure—so much so that a third of them would proudly and automatically correct your assertion by explaining that the US is not a democracy.

    I hear you're saying, but I think it's important to nuance this take. Much of the US is and has long been ruled by a party representing a minority of voters accustomed to yielding disproportionate political power by leveraging antimajoritarian and indeed antidemocratic features of the US political & electoral system. The democracy these people love is not the same democracy as the one their opponents—and most of the developed world—loves.
    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    Sure—so much so that a third of them would proudly and automatically correct your assertion by explaining that the US is not a democracy.

    I hear you're saying, but I think it's important to nuance this take. Much of the US is and has long been ruled by a party representing a minority of voters accustomed to yielding disproportionate political power by leveraging antimajoritarian and indeed antidemocratic features of the US political & electoral system. The democracy these people love is not the same democracy as the one their opponents—and most of the developed world—loves.
    The irony of course is that a system designed to keep out populist is used by a populist to crowbar himself in.

    Good catch on a huge number of Americans being pedantic on the faux difference between a democracy and a republic.
    Congratulations America

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    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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    “Humanity's greatest advances are not in its discoveries, but in how those discoveries are applied to reduce inequity.”
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    I am still not certain the duly elected president will be inaugurated come January 20th.
    Congratulations America

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    I am.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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