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    https://newrepublic.com/post/190555/...s-farm-workers

    It's a good think most of you freaks don't eat vegetables I guess
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    Trump is not known to think about potential unintended consequences to policies.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


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    I have mixed feelings about the US effectively subsidizing its food production industry with exploited under-the-table labor. Is it right to rely on illegals who make less than the legal minimum, who can't unionize, who can be abused without recourse? Maybe Trump breaking the status quo in a white supremacist crusade will inadvertently force America to stop using people this way. Or not. Who knows. America chose this, so, we can only watch where it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I have mixed feelings about the US effectively subsidizing its food production industry with exploited under-the-table labor. Is it right to rely on illegals who make less than the legal minimum, who can't unionize, who can be abused without recourse? Maybe Trump breaking the status quo in a white supremacist crusade will inadvertently force America to stop using people this way. Or not. Who knows. America chose this, so, we can only watch where it goes.
    The US should subsidize their food production industry further by making these jobs pay much better so that Americans do them rather than exploited undocumented immigrants. In the end, the average person may have to pay more for their food. You’re right - maybe this could end up being a good thing.

    That’s not to ignore the xenophobia against migrants. The irony of the majority of the American population being decedents of settler colonialists who replaced the natives through genocide is not lost on me.
    Last edited by BluntHorse; 02-01-2025 at 09:41 PM.
    Oh come on with the "genocide" rhetoric.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BluntHorse View Post
    The US should subsidize their food production industry further by making these jobs pay much better so that Americans do them rather than exploited undocumented immigrants. In the end, the average person may have to pay more for their food. You?re right - maybe this could end up being a good thing.
    Today America is not on a path to paying a living wage to low skill workers. It would be more likely to see all the migrants made into prisoners and then forced to work - without pay - the same fields they were once underpaid to work.

    That?s not to ignore the xenophobia against migrants. The irony of the majority of the American population being decedents of settler colonialists who replaced the natives through genocide is not lost on me.
    I don't think there's irony at all, its probably the story of humanity from the beginning. Nearly every human population in existence today got where they are by replacing, via genocide, the people that got there before them. Where do you think the Neanderthals went? I think fear of the other and genocide are basic to human nature - its only through great effort we've been able to make such a peaceful world as we have achieved since WW2. And yeah, it's not that peaceful, but it used to be a lot worse. The hard choice is not to commit genocide, because our worst instinct is to be safe as possible, and you can't really be safe while the other is right outside your door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    Today America is not on a path to paying a living wage to low skill workers. It would be more likely to see all the migrants made into prisoners and then forced to work - without pay - the same fields they were once underpaid to work.

    I don't think there's irony at all, its probably the story of humanity from the beginning. Nearly every human population in existence today got where they are by replacing, via genocide, the people that got there before them. Where do you think the Neanderthals went? I think fear of the other and genocide are basic to human nature - its only through great effort we've been able to make such a peaceful world as we have achieved since WW2. And yeah, it's not that peaceful, but it used to be a lot worse. The hard choice is not to commit genocide, because our worst instinct is to be safe as possible, and you can't really be safe while the other is right outside your door.
    The years since WW II have been exceptionally peaceful and tbh I kind of am attached to the system that made this possible. But what I see is a world moving towards more instability and possibly more wars if not WW III.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I have mixed feelings about the US effectively subsidizing its food production industry with exploited under-the-table labor. Is it right to rely on illegals who make less than the legal minimum, who can't unionize, who can be abused without recourse? Maybe Trump breaking the status quo in a white supremacist crusade will inadvertently force America to stop using people this way. Or not. Who knows. America chose this, so, we can only watch where it goes.
    Man i hope your family has chickens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    The years since WW II have been exceptionally peaceful and tbh I kind of am attached to the system that made this possible. But what I see is a world moving towards more instability and possibly more wars if not WW III.
    I fear the same thing. The people running the White House want to tear that system down for whatever fucking reason... lunacy.
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    In other news, chickens are getting to be in short supply lately - they've been trying to control avian flu by killing millions and millions of them. The price of eggs and chicken are very high right now as a result. And... president Wrecks-It-All just imposed 25% tariffs on our closest trading partners for whatever fucking reason. No idea what that's going to do but I'm guessing increase the cost of everything for everyone in North America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    I fear the same thing. The people running the White House want to tear that system down for whatever fucking reason... lunacy.
    Somehow they seem to think a weaker federal government is going to make them free-er and more powerful . I think they are wrong; it's the federal structure that forms the foundation of American dominance. And that dominance for a long time was beneficial.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Somehow they seem to think a weaker federal government is going to make them free-er and more powerful . I think they are wrong; it's the federal structure that forms the foundation of American dominance. And that dominance for a long time was beneficial.
    More so our global alliances - as most embodied in NATO. And they want to tear that down too. I so do not understand what they are thinking. Its like they want more war and less prosperity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    More so our global alliances - as most embodied in NATO. And they want to tear that down too. I so do not understand what they are thinking. Its like they want more war and less prosperity.
    It's a bit like religious fanatics taking over.
    Congratulations America

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