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Ziggy and Chambalaya aren't very active, possibly for the reasons out-lined above.

I would like you to substantiate this claim of attacks, but if wishes were fishes, right?

Just last week you made it seem that I enjoyed killing babies because I wanted to reduce benefits. :bored:

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The bigger point is that most of the non-leftists here attack political positions.

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Honest question, do you include yourself in the qualifier 'most'?

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Just last week you made it seem that I enjoyed killing babies because I wanted to reduce benefits. http://www.theworldforgotten.com/ima...on_neutral.gif

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And in the past 24 hours, roughly, you've defended the idea that taxation is theft done at gun-point. Come on.

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If you don't understand the concept of owning property and land you're way too far off in hippy land for us to actually have a constructive discussion.

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My reproductive organs are my own personal property. I was born like this, and don't have to "earn" my gender, anatomy or physiology. That's about as God-given as you can get, but you'd allow teh big bad gummit power to limit/ban my reproductive choices, restrict my self-determination and personal freedom?

Methinks you're a confused conservative, who forgot the common ground with "liberals and hippies" when it comes to personal privacy.

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The bigger point is that most of the non-leftists here attack political positions. The lefties attack everyone else for their supposed immorality.

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You consistently attack others for what you think are personal failings. Its sorta become your thing with the one liners when you've reached the end of a discussion.

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And in the past 24 hours, roughly, you've defended the idea that taxation is theft done at gun-point. Come on.

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And? I attack a political view, you attack a person.

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Then address that specifically instead of all this word fencing. You go after with this 3 decade on planet, you don't truly own the land philosophical blah blah, and wonder why some of us are not connecting?

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I admit some of my posts were, er, oblique and impenetrable. But I do maintain that there are problems with Lewk's notion that he owns the land or the world's oil in the sense that he seems to believe he does. That conflict of opinion is necessarily philosophical in nature. Pragmatism compels us to concede that eg. oil can be owned by Lewk, but what that "ownership" means is a question that lies in the realm of philosophy as much as it lies in the realm of day-to-day driving. Ultimately, this sort of question lies at the heart of several of our conflicts over the rights and obligations of govt and society vs. those of the individual. For that reason, I don't think it's right to short-change this discussion.

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I admit some of my posts were, er, oblique and impenetrable. But I do maintain that there are problems with Lewk's notion that he owns the land or the world's oil in the sense that he seems to believe he does. That conflict of opinion is necessarily philosophical in nature. Pragmatism compels us to concede that eg. oil can be owned by Lewk, but what that "ownership" means is a question that lies in the realm of philosophy as much as it lies in the realm of day-to-day driving. Ultimately, this sort of question lies at the heart of several of our conflicts over the rights and obligations of govt and society vs. those of the individual. For that reason, I don't think it's right to short-change this discussion.

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Except even your socialist paradise accepts the existence of private property.

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And? I attack a political view, you attack a person.

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You argumented that taxation is morally wrong as it is forced on unwitting participants. You earlier complained that

" The lefties attack everyone else for their supposed immorality."

Your only argument there was hand-wringing over the supposed coercion which was being lampooned in the first place. You don't attack political views, you bark at anything that displeases you, person or idea.

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Except even your socialist paradise accepts the existence of private property.

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Yes, and yet my socialist paradise is known for restricting in various ways what the "owner" of "private property" can do with his "property". I'm going to refrain from attacking your character and instead point out that I have repeatedly said that my contention is with what ownership means, not with the general notion of ownership as a concept necessary for most aspects of human existence.

Of the regular D&Ds I'd say in no particular order:

Right: Lewk, Loki, Veldan, Dread (ish might call him centre) and myself.
Left: GGT, OG, Minx, Chaloobi, Steely, Hazir, Nessus and Ziggy.
Centrish: wiggin and Fuzzy.

Apologies if I missed anyone. Interestingly the left is represented globally but I can't think of any non-American rights besides myself. Maybe it's just my perspective but I think the right independently disagrees with each other more often than the left does.

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I attack a political view, you attack a person.

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And fanboys like OG eat it up.

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I'm pretty sure he has an allergic reaction to the letter "R".

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Why do I get the feeling that if Obama called for the nuking of Florida, you'd find a way to defend him?

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Why not just start your own forum with AR81 and Being? Think about how much trouble you'll avoid by not being repeatedly told to read posts before replying to them. You can each have your own stream of consciousness sub-forums, and the other two can pretend to read them. Then you can have a joint forum for made up "facts".

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So hyper-partisans such as yourself have something to feel smug about.

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Your picture is certainly under the phrase "cognitive dissonance" in psychology texts.

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Yes, yes it is.

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Of the regular D&Ds I'd say in no particular order:

Right: Lewk, Loki, Veldan, Dread (ish might call him centre) and myself.
Left: GGT, OG, Minx, Chaloobi, Steely, Hazir, Nessus and Ziggy.
Centrish: wiggin and Fuzzy.

Apologies if I missed anyone. Interestingly the left is represented globally but I can't think of any non-American rights besides myself. Maybe it's just my perspective but I think the right independently disagrees with each other more often than the left does.

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I guess Joker is centre. Spawnie disappeared, but he was economically right and socially liberal. Otherwise I can't think of anyone either.

Every year in the US, many people with health insurance (or Govt. Medicare) can change their insurance preferences around late October/early November.

Due to increased costs and mandates from Obamacare, my employer re-bid the entire company's workforce. We went from having 4 provider choices to just one (with two different options). Oh, and our employee premiums were increased slightly.

I still get a great deal, but hopefully middle-class voters are paying attention to all their mail on these issues. :bored:

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Yes, yes it is.

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Look at you attacking the person, not their politics. Do you realize how much pressure Mittens has been under after people have inspected what he has said? Why would you place our Loki to the same gauntlet as the challenging presidential hopeful forcefully refuses to undergo?

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Look at you attacking the person, not their politics.

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L-l-look at you hacker

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Panting and sweating

I almost want to see Romney win the election to see the fun the Onion would have with Ryan as veep after the splendid job they did with Biden.

If Romney wins then here's hoping for Ryan 2020 :heart:

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If Romney wins then here's hoping for Ryan 2020 :heart:

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Palin all the way, baby

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Every year in the US, many people with health insurance (or Govt. Medicare) can change their insurance preferences around late October/early November.

Due to increased costs and mandates from Obamacare, my employer re-bid the entire company's workforce. We went from having 4 provider choices to just one (with two different options). Oh, and our employee premiums were increased slightly.

I still get a great deal, but hopefully middle-class voters are paying attention to all their mail on these issues. :bored:

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For once, my coverage (and premiums) didn't change at all this year :up:

Romney winning would be delicious.

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Yes, yes it is.

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Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.

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Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.

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The leaders of the world left?

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Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.

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And all personal attacks directed at you are directed at you. Enough said.

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Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.

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There, see, you just did it again :mad:

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The leaders of the world left?

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I didn't vote for them.

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I didn't vote for them.

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Joke about Stalinism plus how dare you post with someone disagreeing with Loki :mad:

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Joke about Stalinism plus how dare you post with someone disagreeing with Loki :mad:

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Joke about a moist Stalin distributing swords.

And mumbled apologies while hurrying back to the left side of the fence.