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  1. #841
    Ziggy and Chambalaya aren't very active, possibly for the reasons out-lined above.

    I would like you to substantiate this claim of attacks, but if wishes were fishes, right?
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  2. #842
    Just last week you made it seem that I enjoyed killing babies because I wanted to reduce benefits.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  3. #843
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The bigger point is that most of the non-leftists here attack political positions.
    Honest question, do you include yourself in the qualifier 'most'?
    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

  4. #844
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Just last week you made it seem that I enjoyed killing babies because I wanted to reduce benefits.

    And in the past 24 hours, roughly, you've defended the idea that taxation is theft done at gun-point. Come on.
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  5. #845
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    If you don't understand the concept of owning property and land you're way too far off in hippy land for us to actually have a constructive discussion.
    My reproductive organs are my own personal property. I was born like this, and don't have to "earn" my gender, anatomy or physiology. That's about as God-given as you can get, but you'd allow teh big bad gummit power to limit/ban my reproductive choices, restrict my self-determination and personal freedom?

    Methinks you're a confused conservative, who forgot the common ground with "liberals and hippies" when it comes to personal privacy.

  6. #846
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The bigger point is that most of the non-leftists here attack political positions. The lefties attack everyone else for their supposed immorality.
    You consistently attack others for what you think are personal failings. Its sorta become your thing with the one liners when you've reached the end of a discussion.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  7. #847
    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    And in the past 24 hours, roughly, you've defended the idea that taxation is theft done at gun-point. Come on.
    And? I attack a political view, you attack a person.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  8. #848
    Quote Originally Posted by Veldan Rath View Post
    Then address that specifically instead of all this word fencing. You go after with this 3 decade on planet, you don't truly own the land philosophical blah blah, and wonder why some of us are not connecting?
    I admit some of my posts were, er, oblique and impenetrable. But I do maintain that there are problems with Lewk's notion that he owns the land or the world's oil in the sense that he seems to believe he does. That conflict of opinion is necessarily philosophical in nature. Pragmatism compels us to concede that eg. oil can be owned by Lewk, but what that "ownership" means is a question that lies in the realm of philosophy as much as it lies in the realm of day-to-day driving. Ultimately, this sort of question lies at the heart of several of our conflicts over the rights and obligations of govt and society vs. those of the individual. For that reason, I don't think it's right to short-change this discussion.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  9. #849
    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    I admit some of my posts were, er, oblique and impenetrable. But I do maintain that there are problems with Lewk's notion that he owns the land or the world's oil in the sense that he seems to believe he does. That conflict of opinion is necessarily philosophical in nature. Pragmatism compels us to concede that eg. oil can be owned by Lewk, but what that "ownership" means is a question that lies in the realm of philosophy as much as it lies in the realm of day-to-day driving. Ultimately, this sort of question lies at the heart of several of our conflicts over the rights and obligations of govt and society vs. those of the individual. For that reason, I don't think it's right to short-change this discussion.
    Except even your socialist paradise accepts the existence of private property.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  10. #850
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    And? I attack a political view, you attack a person.


    You argumented that taxation is morally wrong as it is forced on unwitting participants. You earlier complained that

    " The lefties attack everyone else for their supposed immorality."

    Your only argument there was hand-wringing over the supposed coercion which was being lampooned in the first place. You don't attack political views, you bark at anything that displeases you, person or idea.
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  11. #851
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Except even your socialist paradise accepts the existence of private property.
    Yes, and yet my socialist paradise is known for restricting in various ways what the "owner" of "private property" can do with his "property". I'm going to refrain from attacking your character and instead point out that I have repeatedly said that my contention is with what ownership means, not with the general notion of ownership as a concept necessary for most aspects of human existence.
    Last edited by Aimless; 10-22-2012 at 08:54 PM.
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  12. #852
    Of the regular D&Ds I'd say in no particular order:

    Right: Lewk, Loki, Veldan, Dread (ish might call him centre) and myself.
    Left: GGT, OG, Minx, Chaloobi, Steely, Hazir, Nessus and Ziggy.
    Centrish: wiggin and Fuzzy.

    Apologies if I missed anyone. Interestingly the left is represented globally but I can't think of any non-American rights besides myself. Maybe it's just my perspective but I think the right independently disagrees with each other more often than the left does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  13. #853
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I attack a political view, you attack a person.
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    And fanboys like OG eat it up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    I'm pretty sure he has an allergic reaction to the letter "R".
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Why do I get the feeling that if Obama called for the nuking of Florida, you'd find a way to defend him?
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Why not just start your own forum with AR81 and Being? Think about how much trouble you'll avoid by not being repeatedly told to read posts before replying to them. You can each have your own stream of consciousness sub-forums, and the other two can pretend to read them. Then you can have a joint forum for made up "facts".
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    So hyper-partisans such as yourself have something to feel smug about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Your picture is certainly under the phrase "cognitive dissonance" in psychology texts.
    Yes, yes it is.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  14. #854
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Of the regular D&Ds I'd say in no particular order:

    Right: Lewk, Loki, Veldan, Dread (ish might call him centre) and myself.
    Left: GGT, OG, Minx, Chaloobi, Steely, Hazir, Nessus and Ziggy.
    Centrish: wiggin and Fuzzy.

    Apologies if I missed anyone. Interestingly the left is represented globally but I can't think of any non-American rights besides myself. Maybe it's just my perspective but I think the right independently disagrees with each other more often than the left does.

    I guess Joker is centre. Spawnie disappeared, but he was economically right and socially liberal. Otherwise I can't think of anyone either.
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  15. #855
    Every year in the US, many people with health insurance (or Govt. Medicare) can change their insurance preferences around late October/early November.

    Due to increased costs and mandates from Obamacare, my employer re-bid the entire company's workforce. We went from having 4 provider choices to just one (with two different options). Oh, and our employee premiums were increased slightly.

    I still get a great deal, but hopefully middle-class voters are paying attention to all their mail on these issues.

  16. #856
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Yes, yes it is.
    Look at you attacking the person, not their politics. Do you realize how much pressure Mittens has been under after people have inspected what he has said? Why would you place our Loki to the same gauntlet as the challenging presidential hopeful forcefully refuses to undergo?
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  17. #857
    Look at you attacking the person, not their politics.
    L-l-look at you hacker
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  18. #858


    Panting and sweating
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  19. #859
    I almost want to see Romney win the election to see the fun the Onion would have with Ryan as veep after the splendid job they did with Biden.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  20. #860
    If Romney wins then here's hoping for Ryan 2020
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  21. #861
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    If Romney wins then here's hoping for Ryan 2020
    Palin all the way, baby
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  22. #862
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Every year in the US, many people with health insurance (or Govt. Medicare) can change their insurance preferences around late October/early November.

    Due to increased costs and mandates from Obamacare, my employer re-bid the entire company's workforce. We went from having 4 provider choices to just one (with two different options). Oh, and our employee premiums were increased slightly.

    I still get a great deal, but hopefully middle-class voters are paying attention to all their mail on these issues.
    For once, my coverage (and premiums) didn't change at all this year
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  23. #863
    Romney winning would be delicious.
    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

  24. #864
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    Yes, yes it is.
    Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  25. #865
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.
    The leaders of the world left?
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  26. #866
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.
    And all personal attacks directed at you are directed at you. Enough said.
    The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
    The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
    When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
    I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun

  27. #867
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Those are all directed at OG and GGT. Enough said.
    There, see, you just did it again
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

  28. #868
    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    The leaders of the world left?
    I didn't vote for them.
    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

  29. #869
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
    I didn't vote for them.
    Joke about Stalinism plus how dare you post with someone disagreeing with Loki
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

  30. #870
    Quote Originally Posted by Nessus View Post
    Joke about Stalinism plus how dare you post with someone disagreeing with Loki
    Joke about a moist Stalin distributing swords.

    And mumbled apologies while hurrying back to the left side of the fence.
    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

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