So...what happened to the Atari forums?

Hey everybody. Thanks for the message, DarkWraith. So why did you guys get kicked off of Atari? If I had to guess, it was because the pointless debates (haha) were consuming too much bandwidth.

New forum management. They didn't like political talkings because the other forum they ran didn't have political talkings, so they demodded Rand and later banned Dread. We weren't sticking around after that. If you dig, or just wait in this thread long enough, you'll get a more complete story.

But we won in the end. This forum is more successful than the new forum they have.

That's cool. It always struck me as odd that an eclectic group of intellectuals were squatting on the Atari forums to have their debates. It makes a lot more sense to have your own forums. Good for you!

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Originally Posted by bartwart

That's cool. It always struck me as odd that an eclectic group of intellectuals were squatting on the Atari forums to have their debates. It makes a lot more sense to have your own forums. Good for you!

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Who you callin' intellectual? :haha: But you are right...Atari didn't want any intelligent conversations happening on their time!

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Originally Posted by bartwart

That's cool. It always struck me as odd that an eclectic group of intellectuals were squatting on the Atari forums to have their debates. It makes a lot more sense to have your own forums. Good for you!

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You go away for a while and now you don't count yourself among us?

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Hey bartwart. Good to have you ... back. :)

... also thank you for calling some of us smart. :D:up:

...and intellectuals :up:

:haha:

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Originally Posted by bartwart

Hey everybody. Thanks for the message, DarkWraith. So why did you guys get kicked off of Atari? If I had to guess, it was because the pointless debates (haha) were consuming too much bandwidth.

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Hey Bart. Been a long time. Check it out, we can say Fuck now. :) :up:

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That's cool. It always struck me as odd that an eclectic group of intellectuals were squatting on the Atari forums to have their debates. It makes a lot more sense to have your own forums. Good for you!

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Wait, intellectuals? :confused:

Welcome back. Agreed with Sir Chalobi. We're all neanderthals. :o

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Welcome back. Agreed with Sir Chalobi. We're all neanderthals. :o

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On a side note, that's more true than you probably think. Humans not exclusively of African origin apparently all have a splash of Neanderthal genome from some interbreeding incident that occurred approximately 50k years ago. Technically, though, Neanderthals were as human as Pygmies and Mongols, otherwise interbreeding would have been impossible.

mongols?

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Originally Posted by EyeKhan

On a side note, that's more true than you probably think. Humans not exclusively of African origin apparently all have a splash of Neanderthal genome from some interbreeding incident that occurred approximately 50k years ago. Technically, though, Neanderthals were as human as Pygmies and Mongols, otherwise interbreeding would have been impossible.

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Are wading into my different puddles of muck theory? :confused:

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mongols?

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You didn't know Mongols are human?

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Are wading into my different puddles of muck theory? :confused:

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Is there a pronoun missing?

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Is there a pronoun missing?

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Whoopsy,

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Originally Posted by Being

Are you wading into my different puddles of muck theory? :confused:

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Welcome back. Agreed with Sir Chalobi. We're all neandertals. :o

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Fixed :o

Hi Bart, glad you could make it over!

What's a neandertal? :confused:

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Whoopsy,

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I didn't know you owned that muck.

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What's a neandertal? :confused:

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The Neandertal is a small valley of the river Düssel in the German Federal State of North Rhine-Westphalia

I would disagree with a characterization of this forum as an "intellectual" forum, but I don't think that has a great deal to do with the quality of its contributors. I would instead argue that this environment isn't conducive to meaningful intellectual exchange. I think that I vaguely remember a discussion about this a while back, too.

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What's a neandertal? :confused:

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See Steely. It is where the famous hominid was actually discovered. Neanderthal is an Americanism that has been largely abandoned by the professionals.


Edit: I'd agree with Shipper. It's got some intellectual elements, but the tenor of things is far more geared towards information manipulation, scoring arguing points and "winning" to be anywhere near intellectual. Besides, a good chunk of the forum is "gee, lookit that" kind of stuff.

Not a value judgment, just an assessment.

To write it off as an "Americanism" isn't entirely correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neandertal

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During the 19th century the valley was called Neandershöhle (Neander's Hollow), and after 1850 Neanderthal (Neander Valley). It was named after Joachim Neander, a 17th-century German pastor. Neander is the Greek translation of his family name Neumann — both names meaning "new man". He lived nearby in Düsseldorf and loved the valley for giving him the inspiration for his compositions. Former names of the gorge were Das Gesteins (The Rockiness) and Das Hundsklipp (Cliff of dogs, perhaps in a sense like "Beastly Cliff").
In 1901 an orthographic reform in Germany changed the spelling of Thal (valley) to Tal. The scientific names like Homo neanderthalensis or Homo sapiens neanderthalensis for Neanderthal man are not affected by this change, because the laws of taxonomy retain the original spelling at the time of naming. The railway station nearby still carries the name Neanderthal, because the railway was built in 1879.

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I'm not a professional, so of course I don't know what the taxonomic convention among professionals actually is. I'm wagering that the author of the wiki article didn't, either, but at any rate the orthographic reform bit is true.

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Originally Posted by Shipper

I would disagree with a characterization of this forum as an "intellectual" forum, but I don't think

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Should have stopped here you monkey.

Really?

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Really?

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No. :tiphat:

Well, I did :noob:

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Originally Posted by ']['ear

Edit: I'd agree with Shipper. It's got some intellectual elements, but the tenor of things is far more geared towards information manipulation, scoring arguing points and "winning" to be anywhere near intellectual. Besides, a good chunk of the forum is "gee, lookit that" kind of stuff.

Not a value judgment, just an assessment.

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Yeah. Definitely not a value judgment on my part, either - I mean, I don't look for meaningful intellectual exchange in this forum, and I was impressed by someone's characterization of it as a "conversation." That's the value for me. Interesting people. The quasi-intellectual discussions just make it more interesting by flushing out the varying temperaments, perspectives, etc

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Originally Posted by Shipper

Well, I did :noob:



Yeah. Definitely not a value judgment on my part, either - I mean, I don't look for meaningful intellectual exchange in this forum, and I was impressed by someone's characterization of it as a "conversation." That's the value for me. Interesting people. The quasi-intellectual discussions just make it more interesting by flushing out the varying temperaments, perspectives, etc

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I'm not accepting the fact you are the actual Shipper until I receive some varifying information. I'll be riding the middle trail soon and might drop down by Bare Hole.

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I'm not accepting the fact you are the actual Shipper until I receive some varifying information. I'll be riding the middle trail soon and might drop down by Bare Hole.

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North Rim is ungodly awesome right now

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North Rim is ungodly awesome right now

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:up:

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I would disagree with a characterization of this forum as an "intellectual" forum, but I don't think that has a great deal to do with the quality of its contributors. I would instead argue that this environment isn't conducive to meaningful intellectual exchange. I think that I vaguely remember a discussion about this a while back, too.

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We almost had it here for a little while. But that went out the window in favor of the circle-jerks and stupid tricks to support and prolong the same. It's why I'm not around as much any more. So close.

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We almost had it here for a little while. But that went out the window in favor of the circle-jerks and stupid tricks to support and prolong the same. It's why I'm not around as much any more. So close.

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What, specifically, do you think changed? What brought us that close in the first place; how and when did we gain it and lose it?

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What, specifically, do you think changed? What brought us that close in the first place; how and when did we gain it and lose it?

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Completely off topic but, check your PMs.

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What, specifically, do you think changed? What brought us that close in the first place; how and when did we gain it and lose it?

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I know what changed the direction of the forum, but I think most people here seem alright with what's going on, so who am I to push for anything else? It's not what I want, but it might be what others want. It must be, since the internet is so full of the like. Sometimes more meaningful discussions still spring up briefly on the margins at least.

And what might that be?

Yeah, that's not happening. I'm not in the mood for a fight. Just ignore me, please.

er, I wasn't looking for a fight, just wondering what you meant.

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And what might that be?

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Maybe somebody pretending to be Gentry? Or Kane? Or St. Mark?

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er, I wasn't looking for a fight, just wondering what you meant.

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It isn't a fight with you I'm expecting.

Fair enough :o

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Originally Posted by ']['ear

. It's got some intellectual elements, but the tenor of things is far more geared towards information manipulation, scoring arguing points and "winning" to be anywhere near intellectual. Besides, a good chunk of the forum is "gee, lookit that" kind of stuff.

Not a value judgment, just an assessment.

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You're romanticizing intellectuals.