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    In Obama's speech of State of Union, he talked about almost everything: health care; spending cut.... but the core: the two war in Mid-east.

    Nobody dares to touch it. Law makers, government officials, even media. Nobody dares to touch it. The Internet swift boat team guide people to gossip this on Obama, that on Obama, only they too, dare not to touch the war on Iraq and war in Afghanistan. That is the core of US politics.

    Obama can save more by withdrawing US army from Iraq and Afghanistan than his save plan in government budget. He can save much more by cutting the budget of Pentagon which occupies half of the whole world's military spending. When so many poor people, even middle class need help, the ruling class throw money in war.

    That core they dare not to touch is: there is still an un-finished war - war on Iran. That’s why they find every excuse to keep a big army in Mid-East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
    That core they dare not to touch is: there is still an un-finished war - war on Iran. That’s why they find every excuse to keep a big army in Mid-East.
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    As soon as we take Turkmenistan we'll have the sumbitches surrounded.

    Turkmenistan>

    ......Iraq> < Afghanistan

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    ..................Iran.........................
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    this is the best day on tWF

    WELCOME BACK KATHAKSUNG

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    With the the compensations paid by 3 large banks youy could pay for 67 shuttle flights

    Goldman, Morgan Stanley payouts hog the spotlight
    Goldman Sachs is on pace to set aside $22.3 billion for compensation last year, eclipsing the previous record $20.2 billion it set in 2007. Morgan Stanley is on pace to set aside $14.5 billion for 2009.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60I53X20100119

    JPMorgan Chase Earns $11.7 Billion
    Those cheery figures were accompanied by news that JPMorgan had earmarked $26.9 billion to compensate its workers, much of which will be paid out as bonuses.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/16/bu...morgan.html?hp

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    Kathaksung - remember that you are to keep to one thread if its going to be the same as over at Atari. If I see a load of threads again like this I will be closing them, pick which one you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Kathaksung - remember that you are to keep to one thread if its going to be the same as over at Atari. If I see a load of threads again like this I will be closing them, pick which one you want.
    Prepared with a concentration camp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Kathaksung - remember that you are to keep to one thread if its going to be the same as over at Atari. If I see a load of threads again like this I will be closing them, pick which one you want.
    Quote Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
    Prepared with a concentration camp?
    Fuck that. Post the way the rest of us do...the way you see fit. If people don't like your threads they shouldn't click on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    Fuck that. Post the way the rest of us do...the way you see fit. If people don't like your threads they shouldn't click on them.
    don't you know that's only an excuse. It's easy to delete my postings if they are concentrated in one or two threads when it's time. As a matter of fact, they opened a new site to keep people from read my messages. In this way, many Atrari users wouldn't bother to go to a new web site.

    Just realize how cunning the Feds is and how they do their censorship job covertly.

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    A herd of puppets of law makers, disguised with different colours. But when its master gives an order, they answer obediently.

    House sends extension of Patriot Act to Obama

    By LARRY MARGASAK
    Associated Press Writer

    updated 4:38 p.m. PT, Thurs., Feb. 25, 2010
    WASHINGTON - Key provisions of the nation's primary counterterrorism law would be extended for a year under a bill passed by the House Thursday evening after Democrats retreated from adding new privacy protections.

    The House voted 315 to 97 to extend the USA Patriot Act, sending the bill to President Barack Obama. Without the bill, the provisions would expire Sunday.
    The Senate approved the extension Wednesday. The privacy protections were cast aside when Senate Democrats lacked the necessary 60-vote supermajority to pass them. Thrown away were restrictions and greater scrutiny on the government's authority to spy on Americans and seize their records.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35592245/ns/politics/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
    A herd of puppets of law makers, disguised with different colours. But when its master gives an order, they answer obediently.
    Calm down. Since the beginning of 20th century the decline of all empires have started and those wh tried to create empires failed.

    * French and British empire lost their colonies.
    * Germany tried twice to form an empire and ended up split in two.
    * Japan tried to form an empire and ended up nuked.
    * USSR tried to form an empire and collapsed and soviet nations became independent.
    * Argentina tried to take Falklands and suffered deficit, hyperinflation and starvation.
    * US is trying to form an empire with huge debt and deficit... what will happen next?

    So calm down and do not worry. Buy some popcorn and try to watch how US goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
    don't you know that's only an excuse. It's easy to delete my postings if they are concentrated in one or two threads when it's time. As a matter of fact, they opened a new site to keep people from read my messages. In this way, many Atrari users wouldn't bother to go to a new web site.

    Just realize how cunning the Feds is and how they do their censorship job covertly.

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    A herd of puppets of law makers, disguised with different colours. But when its master gives an order, they answer obediently.
    While I'm honored that you conflate Atari's incompetence with that of the government, bottom line is we expect you to stick to two threads tops.

    And my ability to nuke your posts remains consistent no matter how many you make.

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    The long thread you had attracted more the attention because we all knew there were things to read.
    I think one thread was more effective than many.

    Rand, do not be as fascist as Atari mod.
    He should understand that his previous single thread format encouraged reading more than multiple threads.
    No need to threat him... unless you are a US goverment agent...

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    Not threatening, more stating a fact. This discussion has already happened at the Other Place - it's not new.

    But may have gone too far saying 1 - Kat you had 2 threads at Atari so 2 is fair here.

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    Indeed when I saw Kat's single thread back there at Atari, I used to come and read. If he had multiple threads I might have not read his posts. This is why I think his megathread was so good. It was like a blog inside a forum, where you could comment. Isolated scattered posts on the same dark side of US only would make things not so attractive to read.

    If kat is as smart as I think he is, he will use the same single thread format he used back there. That single thread was quite a classic. Atari forum would not have been complete without it.

    I believe convincing is more effective than threatening.
    It gives you a "soft power".

    There are reasons why single thread is better for Kat.
    Last edited by ar81; 02-11-2010 at 02:42 PM.

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    Was that a joke? I lol'ed! Good to see your human side!

    Surely you understand, your threads have a central theme, even a flow, so for the benefit of your story, and to avoid clutter, it'd be best for all, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
    In Obama's speech of State of Union, he talked about almost everything: health care; spending cut.... but the core: the two war in Mid-east.

    Nobody dares to touch it. Law makers, government officials, even media. Nobody dares to touch it. The Internet swift boat team guide people to gossip this on Obama, that on Obama, only they too, dare not to touch the war on Iraq and war in Afghanistan. That is the core of US politics.

    Obama can save more by withdrawing US army from Iraq and Afghanistan than his save plan in government budget. He can save much more by cutting the budget of Pentagon which occupies half of the whole world's military spending. When so many poor people, even middle class need help, the ruling class throw money in war.

    That core they dare not to touch is: there is still an un-finished war - war on Iran. That’s why they find every excuse to keep a big army in Mid-East.
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    U.S. military power: When is enough enough?
    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debat...enough-enough/

    “U.S. militarism has long been a core part of the American Way,” writes Steven Hill in a just-published book, Europe’s Promise, that compares the United States and Europe. Militarism does “triple duty as a formidable foreign policy tool, a powerful stimulus to the economy, and a usurper of tax dollars that could be spent on other budget priorities.”

    Health care, say, or education, or the nation’s crumbling infrastructure. As it is, according to a study by a peace lobby, the Friends Committee on National Legislation, military spending and the cost of past wars have been swallowing up more than 40 percent of federal tax dollars, health care 20 percent, science, energy and environment 2.5 percent and education just over 2.
    War means "stimulus" or deficit that risks hyperinflation?

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    I'm sure our moderators wouldn't find it terribly difficult to delete your insane ramblings and you if they were so inclined.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    Hey, let the guy be. As long as he doesn't clog up the front page, I couldn't care less.

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    Don't tempt me boy

    New rule: If you want a thread to be closed, you have to say so
    Well ....
    I could have had class. I could have been a contender.
    I could have been somebody. Instead of a bum
    Which is what I am

    I aim at the stars
    But sometimes I hit London

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    SFW Dysfunctional picture requirement fulfilled. (harder than I thought on short notice!)

    Let's see if Dread's willing to enforce his own rules.

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    If you do not like his posts, why are you reading them?
    Boredom perhaps?

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    A globalized and the move to a one-world government are both requirements for humanity to be accepted into the Galactic Republic. We will remain quarantined until we can come together as a people. After all, if we can't stop killing and starving each other, how will we behave among aliens? That's the shadow government, those in contact with the alien ambassadors, that Kath is talking about.
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    Polish President murdered?

    The president of Poland died in an air crash. That is part of the payment to Russia. There was a subway bombing in Moscow on 3/29 which killed 38 people. The bombing was planed to justify the coming terror attack in US, though it failed to be carried out. Then there came the payment: a regime change in Kyrygzstan and this air crash.
    Quote, “This is a video filmed by a guy who were at the crash scene right after it happened (you can see the flames). You can see several unknown people walk around in the area, and people SUPPOSEDLY yelling "Dont kill us" etc in Polish, in which after you hear multiple gunshots (or something else, i dont know) all while a siren is blowing to maybe cover up the sounds. Now, like most people, i would discard this as crazy conspiracy theorist bullshit, but then:

    Quote:
    Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow.
    But i still thought "hm...nahh its just a coincidence". But then:

    Quote:
    On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was pronounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence
    So now i dont know what to think. What about you guys? The polish president is known for opposing the Lisabon Treaty and similar things. Also, Putin himself is in charge of the investigation.

    Video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM




    http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/04/g...#ixzz0lnx7WBy2

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaksung View Post
    Polish President murdered?

    The president of Poland died in an air crash. That is part of the payment to Russia. There was a subway bombing in Moscow on 3/29 which killed 38 people. The bombing was planed to justify the coming terror attack in US, though it failed to be carried out. Then there came the payment: a regime change in Kyrygzstan and this air crash.
    Quote, “This is a video filmed by a guy who were at the crash scene right after it happened (you can see the flames). You can see several unknown people walk around in the area, and people SUPPOSEDLY yelling "Dont kill us" etc in Polish, in which after you hear multiple gunshots (or something else, i dont know) all while a siren is blowing to maybe cover up the sounds. Now, like most people, i would discard this as crazy conspiracy theorist bullshit, but then:

    Quote:
    Author of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow.
    But i still thought "hm...nahh its just a coincidence". But then:

    Quote:
    On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was pronounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence
    So now i dont know what to think. What about you guys? The polish president is known for opposing the Lisabon Treaty and similar things. Also, Putin himself is in charge of the investigation.

    Video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxIFh3NkEvM




    http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/04/g...#ixzz0lnx7WBy2
    Npw, can you please explain why anybody would kill the Polish president at all? He was a figurehead without much real power anyway and set to lose the elections later this year.
    Congratulations America

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    You do realize the US government will do whatever it thinks it requires to stay on top, right? Even if that includes cutting your balls off and stuffing them into you asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post
    You do realize the US government will do whatever it thinks it requires to stay on top, right? Even if that includes cutting your balls off and stuffing them into you asshole.
    When you're old enough, they don't even need to cut them off to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    When you're old enough, they don't even need to cut them off to do that.


    That would defeat the whole purpose, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeKhan View Post


    That would defeat the whole purpose, I think.
    If pain is the purpose then leaving them attached is better suited to meeting the goal.
    Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Being View Post
    If pain is the purpose then leaving them attached is better suited to meeting the goal.
    Not if they're that stretchy.
    The Rules
    Copper- behave toward others to elicit treatment you would like (the manipulative rule)
    Gold- treat others how you would like them to treat you (the self regard rule)
    Platinum - treat others the way they would like to be treated (the PC rule)

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