magic, but loki doesn't put much stock in that
i don't know how much of this is a spoiler. None of this should be material that the show hasn't had a chance to explain, but its been long enough that I don't remember completely.
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magic, but loki doesn't put much stock in that
i don't know how much of this is a spoiler. None of this should be material that the show hasn't had a chance to explain, but its been long enough that I don't remember completely.
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"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
I'm not a nutritionist or anything, but I don't think you can survive on just grain in the olden times, you need fruit and vegetables and so on - unless, of course, you like scurvy. More to the point, wouldn't a five year long winter kill off all the trees, other planet-life and non-domesticated fauna?
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The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
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I don't think the tv show has got the far, and even with the books it requires a leap.
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"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
What I got from the stories Old Nan told was that people die in huge numbers during a winter. What I don't quite understand though is whether Winter is a Westeros thing or a global event; the people in Essos don't seem to be especially worried about the climate.Originally Posted by Steely Glint
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The effect of the winter lessens the further you go from the Wall. Dorne is barely affected. I imagine the same is true for Essos.
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So, given that the Seven Kingdoms are really just one kingdom you'd think that during WINTER people simply could move south. It sort of explains in my eyes why the south seems to have move developed cities. The North has more of a hovels in the mud feel about it.
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I think moving isn't so much of an option for a large part of the population, but the north is definitely less populated. It's as large as the rest of the Kingdoms combined, but not the most populated of them
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You could say the same about plenty of countries in the world, and yet that doesn't happen. The North, despite being the size of the rest of the kingdoms combined, also has a really low population. There was an article about how Winter affects the political economy of the seven kingdoms. You can try googling for it.
Edit: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/..._equality.html
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The alternative is dying, and winters are bloody long, not a couple of months after which things go back to normal.
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Like I said above, their winters aren't like our winters. They're more like Ice Ages, which should give people a bigger incentive to pull up roots.
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In a feudal society, how do you deal with an influx of refugees?
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Probably you'll try to fight them off. But given the choice between possible death and certain death I'd go for the first. And don't you forget those pesky White Walkers.
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Old Nan was talking specifically about the long night, at least in the show.
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The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
The White Walkers haven't shown up for over 8000 years if the commonly understood in-universe chronology is to be believed (how exactly the measure what a 'year' is with the seasons being as they are I don't know). In our terms, they're a phenomena that was last witnessed in the 6th millennium BC.
What I want to know is, if castles like Winterfell and Casterly Rock date back to such legendary times such as the long night and the age of heroes and are thus thousands of years old... then they must have been at a level of technology back then that they could build large, inhabitable stone fortifications, so they were sort of a early medieval kinda level of technology. And they had the engineering nous to not only build them, but build them in weird places like rocky outcrops or the top of mountain ranges. By comparison, stone henge is less than 5000 years old, and is considered a marvel of engineering for that time.
Basically, their entire world has been stuck at the same level of technology for thousands upon thousands of years, what's that about?
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
I imagine constant Winters does that to you. Think about the nice parts of Africa that were not particularly developed thousands of years after the dawn of civilization. It is surprising that Essos never got developed I suppose.
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Its actually gone backwards a bit. They have lost and/or forgotten a lot of the magic that got them to the point they are still mooching off of. Bran The Builder is addressed as a legend that no one can match, the Wall is an impossible thing that they can only slow the decomposition of, and I'm betting a lot of the heavy/awkward lifting they used trained dragons for is no longer possible.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Hmm.. that sounds sort of logical; why bother with advancing science and industry when you've got magic and dragons?
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I think wildfire is another example. Previous king had the castle stuffed full of the shit, but already its treated like something thats difficult to create and handle. Accidentally coming across a cache of it helped a great deal with the defense of Kings Landing.
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"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
I believe this is why the wildlings/freefolk are trying their damndest to get south of The Wall. Everybody else further south doesn't know or doesn't remember the horrors north of The Wall and probably believe that they'll be taken care of by their local Houses or the King.
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Actually, according to the book, the alchemists stated that production of wildfire became much easier [around the time the dragons hatched].
When the stars threw down their spears
And watered heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Think I remember something about that, glass candles and all that. I was recalling from Clash of Kings, the alchemists are almost done with, and they won't share the directions on how to make wildfire. Tyrion talks about how difficult it is to make the stuff, and how costly wildfire has become. One of the alchemists even admitted to not destroying old stock because they are no longer up to the task of producing it as they once were.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
What I took away from that was that with the dragons back in the world magic also was on the up again.
Less than 24 hours to the season's finale.
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5 hours.
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That's because basically their storyline has been used up and most likely they're not going to feature or not going to matter in the last two books.
I wonder how they're going to do season five. I guess we're going to get a lot of book 4 stuff that hasn't been covered so far.
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I really hope they had a long conversation with Martin first.
Probably half of book 4 and half of book 5.
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Kit Harrington has really come into his own this season.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
You know nothing Steely Glint
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
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The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
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