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  1. #121
    This didn't take long
    http://www.publications.parliament.u...13102356000002

    The Prime Minister: We have put in place some of the toughest controls that one can possibly have within a democratic Government, and the TPIMs are obviously one part of that. We have had repeated meetings of the extremism task force—it met again yesterday—setting out a whole series of steps that we will take to counter the extremist narrative, including by blocking online sites. Now that I have the opportunity, let me praise Facebook for yesterday reversing the decision it took about the showing of beheading videos online. We will take all these steps and many more to keep our country safe.

    How long before The Guardian gets blacklisted?
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  2. #122
    To infinity and beyond.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  3. #123
    Just as well I've downloaded all the porn on the internet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  4. #124
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25430582

    so the filter blocks a bunch of stuff its not supposed to, on top of it opening a serious door for censorship
    good job guys
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post

    BT launched its filter this week,
    ...
    All new customers will be prompted to decide whether to opt in or out, while existing customers of major ISPs will be presented with an "unavoidable choice" about whether to sign up.




    Erm. I'm an existing BT customer. I've still got access to the same porn I had last week. And I've not seen this "unavaoidable" pop up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  6. #126
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    Maybe your wife opted into porn already?

    TalkTalk's filter is endorsed by Mr Cameron but it failed to block 7% of the 68 pornographic websites tested by Newsnight.

    Sky's filter fared much better, blocking 99% of sites, but it did block six porn-addiction sites.
    fun job
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  7. #127
    I wonder if they have to go through all the pages on a site, just to make sure. Maybe even pay for them as well.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  8. #128
    I'm curious how the filter works. They can't simply block a site as large as reddit, but reddit is full of porn. But you can't block www.reddit.com/r/gonewild cause www.reddit.com/r/gaming+gonewild would be the new link


    and when does the opt in pop up? cause the pic in the bbc link looks a lot like a spam ad you would immediately click away from
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  9. #129
    http://torrentfreak.com/internet-cen...ly-mad-140105/

    ISPs exist to provide us with unfettered access to the Internet, not the version they or their technology partners feels is appropriate for us. Their ‘parental controls’ do not achieve their stated aim of “protecting children” and are already causing collateral damage by blocking totally innocent sites such as the one you are reading now. It’s hard not to get angry when you realize your website’s accessibility is becoming disabled by default.

    Someone once told me never to go food shopping when hungry, never to argue when drunk, and more recently never to write when angry. Take a deep breath, go for a run, get the aggression out anyway you can first, I was advised.

    I’ve done all of that this morning and none of it has worked. In fact, I might be even more fired up than before. This website blocking nonsense that is beginning to pollute the Internet has gone way too far and is becoming my sworn enemy.

    Here at TF we’ve long been opponents of website blocking. It’s a blunt instrument that is prone to causing collateral damage and known for failing to achieve its stated aims. We recently discovered that thanks to Sky’s Broadband Shield filtering system, TorrentFreak is now blocked on one of the UK’s largest ISPs by users who think they are protecting their kids.

    Our crimes are the topics we cover. As readers know we write about file-sharing, copyright and closely linked issues including privacy and web censorship. We write about the positives and the negatives of those topics and we solicit comments from not only the swarthiest of pirates, but also the most hated anti-piracy people on the planet.

    If the MPAA, RIAA, FACT, BPI, RightsAlliance, BREIN and every DMCA takedown company on earth want to have their say they can do that, alongside the folks at The Pirate Bay. We won’t deny anyone their voice, whether it’s someone being raided by the police or the people who instigated the raid. Getting the news out is paramount.

    We are not scared to let anyone have their say and we embrace free speech. But apparently the people at Sky and their technology masters at Symantec believe that we should be denied our right to communicate on the basis that we REPORT NEWS about file-sharing issues.

    That’s just utter nonsense.

    Symantec write about viruses and malware ALL THE TIME, so are they placed in the malware and virus category? Of course not. Thanks to their very own self-categorization process they wear the “Technology and Telecommunication” label. Is their website blocked by any of their own filters? I won’t even bother answering that.

    Examining other sites helpfully categorized by Symantec and blindly accepted by Sky reveals no more clarity either. UK ISP Virgin Media runs its own Usenet access, customers can find it at news.virginmedia.com. From there it’s possible to download every possible copyrighted movie and TV show around today, yet that service is listed by Symantec as a “Technology and Telecommunication / Portal” site. Download.com, possibly the world’s largest distributer of file-sharing software, is also green-lighted through.

    On the other hand, TorrentFreak – which neither offers or links to copyrighted files and hosts no file-sharing software whatsoever – is blocked for any Sky household filtered for under 18s? Really? Our news site is suitable for all ages yet when Sky’s teenager filter is turned on we are put on the same level as porn, suicide, self harm, violence and gore.

    Are you kidding me?

    Thanks to Ernesto’s annual ‘most-pirated‘ charts we have been cited countless dozens of times in the past few weeks by fellow news resources all over the Internet. Yet Sky users who are “protecting their children” find that when they try to follow the link to the source of those stories they are effectively informed that TorrentFreak is unsuitable for anyone under 18. What does that do for our reputation?

    As an earlier statement from Sky points out, the parental filters can be modified to let certain sites through, TorrentFreak.com included. However, when someone in a family asks the account holder for a site to be unblocked (they are the only person who can do that), why would they do so when Sky and Symantec make it very clear on their block screen that we are a file-sharing site? Who will most people believe, a teenager or a “respectable” corporation that cares so much about kids? Furthermore, what are the chances that the account holder even remembers how to turn filtering off once the initial ‘default on’ settings are accepted?

    There can be little doubt that little by little, piece by piece, big corporations and governments are taking chunks out of the free Internet. Today they pretend that the control is in the hands of the people, but along the way they are prepared to mislead and misdirect, even when their errors are pointed out to them.

    I’m calling on Sky, Symantec, McAfee and other ISPs about to employ filtering to categorize this site correctly as a news site or blog and to please start listening to people’s legitimate complaints about other innocent sites. It serves nobody’s interests to wrongfully block legitimate information.

    And to Sky, please don’t try pretending that you’re actually trying to stop file-sharing with your parental controls, because if you really meant business you would have blocked the actual protocols, not merely some websites. But that would cost you money in customer churn, and we obviously need to avoid that at all costs.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  10. #130
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    Well, opinions are probably about as dangerous to kids as porn..
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

  11. #131
    UK members: please audit your porn accessibility and report back here.

  12. #132
    Sky customer and seen no change in anything anywhere and not been asked to make any choices.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  13. #133
    Still no change here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Glint View Post
    It's actually the original French billion, which is bi-million, which is a million to the power of 2. We adopted the word, and then they changed it, presumably as revenge for Crecy and Agincourt, and then the treasonous Americans adopted the new French usage and spread it all over the world. And now we have to use it.

    And that's Why I'm Voting Leave.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    http://torrentfreak.com/internet-cen...ly-mad-140105/

    ISPs exist to provide us with unfettered access to the Internet,
    I'm pretty sympathetic to the "information wants to be free" idea in the internet age in that, regardless of what information wants, it's simply not workable to really keep it locked up. And I think the blocking and censorship is absolutely ridiculous. But so is their thesis statement there. ISPs exist for no such reason. They exist to make money off users by providing them with the content they're willing to pay for. That is a very different statement.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  15. #135
    I got my router upgraded and a change in router is enough to be classed as a new customer by Sky and so got prompted to make the choice. I'm happy to say I opted in to get the internet unrestricted. As it seems have 92% of new Sky customers.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28440067

    The Sky filter gave a film age-rating style range of options with (IIRC) 12 the default, and other options similar to the age-ratings we have in the UK here like 15 and 18. I chose 18 as it seems has everyone else. Turned out to be pretty much a non-story, next move on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  16. #136
    Yep - same when I moved house back in Feb. Got the Sky package - had to opt in.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I got my router upgraded and a change in router is enough to be classed as a new customer by Sky and so got prompted to make the choice. I'm happy to say I opted in to get the internet unrestricted. As it seems have 92% of new Sky customers.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28440067

    The Sky filter gave a film age-rating style range of options with (IIRC) 12 the default, and other options similar to the age-ratings we have in the UK here like 15 and 18. I chose 18 as it seems has everyone else. Turned out to be pretty much a non-story, next move on.
    Good update. Though, don't you worry about the precedent? What if the content filters were somehow more sophisticated than a simple check box? What if everyone had to specify specific lists of "impolite" content every time they bought a new router?

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Good update. Though, don't you worry about the precedent? What if the content filters were somehow more sophisticated than a simple check box? What if everyone had to specify specific lists of "impolite" content every time they bought a new router?
    I was worried with the idea of it, now with this way its been done in practice I'm less so. A checklist would be weird but by tying it in to basic and pretty standard age-ratings its no different than buying Video Games, DVDs, Cinema Tickets etc already are.

    Every time you get a new router you'll need to re-select your age rating but I'm OK with that. A simple age rating is a good compromise, a more advanced option of checklists could be useful for those who want it but should be available (if it is) as an option not compulsory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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  20. #140
    Since it was posted on 12/30/14....it was probably a general public service announcement to remind people that Socializing on the World Wide Web isn't private.

  21. #141
    Only if those words mean something totally different in Scotland.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  22. #142
    Since Dread posted that after the Paris (Charlie Hedbo) killings, he might have focused on the word "offensive" in a way he didn't on 12/30/14.

  23. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Only if those words mean something totally different in Scotland.
    Well, they do mean something totally different to GGT at least, as most words do.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

  24. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Don't know where to put this, but
    More suitable for this thread, as it's about the UK's clampdown on social media 'offences'.

  25. #145
    Its a response a British police department announcing the same thing the week before concerning a fatal truck crash. I'm assuming the term "offensive" carries more weight over there since most of the rage concerning the 2 tweets has come from non-UK people.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  26. #146
    Yeah, what can possibly go wrong with allowing the police to decide what is and isn't offensive.
    Hope is the denial of reality

  27. #147
    I was assuming there is a legal framework for the term thats full of loopholes that leaves it open to interpretation and abuse, just like its done* in the good ol' USofA.



    *thats just a recent example, there are to many social media examples concerning teens to even bothering picking one to link to.
    Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 01-08-2015 at 05:02 PM.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  28. #148
    I don't think you realize how many New Yorkers would have been arrested under this rule in the last few weeks (for posting anti-cop things).
    Hope is the denial of reality

  29. #149
    With the current cop slow down? Less than on a normal week I'm sure.


    Like I said in the beginning, I took the original 2 tweets as if the term "offensive" carries a heavier tone over there than it does over here. Largely because of the lack of a local outcry.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

  30. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    Don't know where to put this, but
    So silly, they could save--and make!!--so much money if they'd stick to just monitoring and investigating black people.
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