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    Default Did not know this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland

    "Switzerland thus has a relatively high gun ownership rate. There are no official statistics, and estimates vary considerably. The Small Arms Survey of 2007 placed Swiss gun ownership per capita at between 30% and 60%,[2] with a 2014 estimate ranging as low as 25%.[3] The rate of Swiss households containing at least one firearm was estimated at 29% by the 2004/5 report of the International Crime Victims Survey, at roughly two thirds of the rate in the United States, and roughly double that in the neighbouring countries of Germany, Austria, Italy and France.[4] Gun ownership appears to have declined during the 2000s and early 2010s, and again surged after 2015.[5]"

    "Estimates of the number of guns in circulation is subject to large uncertainty, ranging between 1.2 and 4.5 million. As of 2014, there were no reliable federal statistics, because gun registration is the responsibility of the individual cantons, with especially rural cantons with a tradition of hunting and shooting following more lax policies than urban cantons.[3] The 2005 International Crime Victims Survey cites estimates of 10% of Swiss households containing handguns, and 29% containing any type of firearm (compared to rates of 18% and 43%, respectively, in the United States).[4]"

    I found this nugget of information while on reddit. When I think of Europe I don't think of guns like I would in America.

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    Switzerland also has mandatory conscription so guns are, or at one point were, a daily aspect of the lives of at least 50% of the population. Thats why a vast majority of the guns in the figures you are quoting are military issued.

    You don't think of europe like of america concerning guns because over there they are taught how to respect them and the damage they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    When I think of Europe I don't think of guns like I would in America.
    Surprise, the US is not the center of the world.

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    If you didn't know this, you haven't been paying attention during discussions on gun regulation.
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    I'm surprised you did not know this. Switzerland is one of the most common examples brought up in gun control debates when putting the US fun problem in an international context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    I found this nugget of information while on reddit. When I think of Europe I don't think of guns like I would in America.
    Have you compared the rate of deaths relating to firearms in the two countries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    Have you compared the rate of deaths relating to firearms in the two countries?
    There is a similar comparison with Canada. They have a ton of guns up there but only a fraction of the US gun violence.

    When I think of Europe I don't think of guns like I would in America.
    And you still shouldn't because it's only similar with a casual glance. In America, we are stupid about guns. And I don't mean the right to bear arms - that isn't stupid all by itself and I don't oppose it. It's the lax regulation that's stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    Have you compared the rate of deaths relating to firearms in the two countries?
    Especially the rate of homicide deaths between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    Have you compared the rate of deaths relating to firearms in the two countries?
    For homicides USA is at 3.43 per 100K and Switzerland is at .23 per 100K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    For homicides USA is at 3.43 per 100K and Switzerland is at .23 per 100K.
    Why is your country so murderous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    Why is your country so murderous?
    Violent videogames perhaps??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    Why is your country so murderous?
    Blame 'Pac
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    If only there was some place where one can learn information like this and discuss it with other people interested in learning and improving themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    Why is your country so murderous?
    Liberals mostly. Open borders with a 3rd world cesspool and a lack of respect for the law ingrained in inner city culture. Also a general disconnect between expectations and reality of what life will be like.

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    Yeah, because the crime rates in states far from Mexico and with tiny urban areas are at European levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unheard Of View Post
    Why is your country so murderous?
    Not enough liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yeah, because the crime rates in states far from Mexico and with tiny urban areas are at European levels.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...447_story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    Liberals mostly.
    Do you believe that there are a greater or lesser proportion of liberals in Canada and Europe, compared to the USA?

    Open borders with a 3rd world cesspool
    What proportion of homicides are perpetrated by people crossing this border?

    and a lack of respect for the law ingrained in inner city culture.
    ...and yet Switzerland has a slightly higher total crime rate than the US (total crime per 1000, see here).

    Also a general disconnect between expectations and reality of what life will be like.
    ...and presumably a believe that murdering people is a reasonable response to this discrepancy.
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    The inner city culture of America is quite different than in Europe. Hell it can be different from city to city of within the same country. Urban areas in America have become massive areas of crime where criminals congregate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewkowski View Post
    The inner city culture of America is quite different than in Europe. Hell it can be different from city to city of within the same country. Urban areas in America have become massive areas of crime where criminals congregate.
    It reads like you believe that the culture of your country is the problem.
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