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    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/stat...158578229.html

    And this is your typical black male's experience with the police. Racial profiling, uneven application of the law, and fake laws used to intimidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/stat...158578229.html

    And this is your typical black male's experience with the police. Racial profiling, uneven application of the law, and fake laws used to intimidate.
    Yet another thing that routine video recording can end. If you've got a cop lying on video then he can and should be disciplined for it. Case closed.
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    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    he can and should be disciplined for it. Case closed.
    It's subtle but your view of the haves and haves not is showing again. When a person lies to a cop it's illegal and they get arrested and charged. When a cop does the lying they get disciplined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    It's subtle but your view of the haves and haves not is showing again. When a person lies to a cop it's illegal and they get arrested and charged. When a cop does the lying they get disciplined.
    Since when were the cops "the haves" and suspects were "the haves not"?

    Also since when was lying illegal? Immoral maybe, but illegal I don't think so.

    To my knowledge it is not illegal to lie. From my knowledge from US cop dramas the Police lying is not illegal (an issue frequently raised in The Closer/Major Crimes). But also to my knowledge lying to the Police is actually not a crime either - though wasting Police time by filing a false report and attempting to pervert the course of justice both are.

    Though if you do get caught out in a lie then expect to get a lot more attention and be trusted a lot less afterwards.

    Again from my knowledge from TV dramas lying to the FBI is a crime unlike lying to the Police.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Since when were the cops "the haves" and suspects were "the haves not"?
    in pretty much every example we've used in this thread thus far, and its broken down in the last link I gave you.

    Also since when was lying illegal? Immoral maybe, but illegal I don't think so.
    Most places will file it under obstruction. Officers have even arrested defense attorneys for telling their clients say nothing at all. But states do have their own laws for it, like Florida's. Which is separate from filing a false report.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Since when were the cops "the haves" and suspects were "the haves not"?

    Also since when was lying illegal? Immoral maybe, but illegal I don't think so.

    To my knowledge it is not illegal to lie. From my knowledge from US cop dramas the Police lying is not illegal (an issue frequently raised in The Closer/Major Crimes). But also to my knowledge lying to the Police is actually not a crime either - though wasting Police time by filing a false report and attempting to pervert the course of justice both are.

    Though if you do get caught out in a lie then expect to get a lot more attention and be trusted a lot less afterwards.

    Again from my knowledge from TV dramas lying to the FBI is a crime unlike lying to the Police.
    Ooh, TV dramas. First wikipedia and now outright fiction. Rand, correct me if I'm wrong but you DO understand what obstruction of justice is, right?

    Yes, it is illegal to lie to the police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Yet another thing that routine video recording can end. If you've got a cop lying on video then he can and should be disciplined for it. Case closed.
    Except, again, that isn't happening. See the guy who shot a black man in the back and was recorded placing a weapon in his dead hand. The state courts couldn't get a conviction. He's in jail now because the Feds hit him with a civil rights charge, and he made a plea which is going to drop even the obstruction of justice charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch the Red View Post
    As far as whether or not the Castile case was cold blooded murder, it certainly seems cold blooded to me to shoot someone who was following an order you gave them, in front of their girlfriend and child, but I suppose an argument could be made that he was just utterly, and ultimately fatally, incompetent. That certainly is not an excuse in my book.
    And the thing is, there's actually a lesser included offense he could be convicted of if he were just utterly and ultimately fatally incompetent. That's precisely the sort of thing manslaughter is for here in the US. If it's your screw up, the fault and criminal responsibility is still yours. And if the death should not have happened then it is INDEED a screw up.
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