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We still have a concentration camp in Guantanamo, after years of not having one since nazi Germany...
Freedom - When people learn to embrace criticism about politicians, since politicians are just employees like you and me.
Shut the fuck up and grow a brain.Originally Posted by ar81
Thank you, that is all.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Too bad that 'excessive stupidity' never made it into the rules.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
There we have it folks: Minx would prefer that brown people starved to death than be exploited by the white man.
Hope is the denial of reality
Man, now you're just being deliberately stupid. It's a good thing the rule about excessive stpidity didn't pass. It's like you're ar81's evil twin or somethingThere we have it folks: Minx would prefer that brown people starved to death than be exploited by the white man.I reject your false dilemma as if it were a grant application.
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
How is this not saying what I mentioned above? Instead of continuing the recriminations, can you tell me a specific, realistic measure that would be more advantageous to the kids in question than working in a factory?
Hope is the denial of reality
That's just an oblique reference to the recent discussion on suicide.
I noticed just now that you edited in a reference to a case where the closure of garments sweatshops led to children being shifted to even more dangerous jobs, including prostitution. Wow, imagine if those kids could've gone to school instead
You speak of brown kids being exploited by the white man as if it's no big deal. Children working in sweatshops, under fucked-up conditions and with no-one really looking after them, isn't equivalent to you mowing lawns over the summer as you seem to imagine it is. They aren't being exploited by the white man, they're being exploited by the brown man, and the brown man isn't a good guy
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
going to school of course
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
Except the very reason these kids were in factories is because their parents needed them to work. Going to school isn't a realistic option. FFS, you can't say that x is bad because y is better when y isn't an actual option. So are you going to actually answer my question or continue with your BS?I noticed just now that you edited in a reference to a case where the closure of garments sweatshops led to children being shifted to even more dangerous jobs, including prostitution. Wow, imagine if those kids could've gone to school instead
Hope is the denial of reality
And that is what happens to you when you eat lead pellets at age four.
Pft. You're undermining his Lewkowskian smears of librulz.I suppose I was blinded by the notion that these things had anything to do with corruption, with a poorly functioning society, and with disgusting values. Legal bordellos that employ child prostitutes, how could I possibly have thought that problem would have anything to do with anything other than age-limits for factory workers?
Sort of like Iraq, where we couldn't let them decide?
{Point being that many brown people make no decisions about their lives. They have no recourse to the law (Pfah, get out of my head, Roger Waters!)}
Fat boobs are still a heckuva lot more boobs than some starving pre-tween would have.
I must be missing something... but fucking hell... this is the first time I've heard of women trying to make themselves sexier by getting fatter.
Re prices: Most agri products are very cheap. Heck, even human steroids, like my prednisone, is ~$12 a month here in the US of A.
Could be a sound logical rebuttal ... or a nice rationalization for not doing jack. I assume most people who have crusaded on this issue are trying to change the system, mostly here at home. If our corporations are coerced into paying workers more (or fewer hours) somewhere, then standards will rise globally.Get off your sanctimonious high horse, you twit.
They force their kids to work (as laborers or whores or whatever else) because it beats having them starve to death. And all your self-righteous moral outrage doesn't change the simple fact if the kiddies don't bring in extra money, the kiddies don't eat.
So what's worse? Kids working 12 hour days in a sweatshop? Kids whoring themselves out to chubby-chasing pedos? Or kids starving to death? Because those are pretty much the only options in a lot of the world. All your bullshit liberal moralizing doesn't put food in their stomachs, even if it does give you the warm fuzzies and a false sense of superiority.
At least Loki isn't advocating that children be starved to death... plus, Asians are sexy.
An unassailable point would be that this causes prices to rise globally. True.
Oh ffs.
No lying was involved in the genesis of this post by Loki, people. Pure 100% honesty.There we have it folks: Minx would prefer that brown people starved to death than be exploited by the white man.
Wait, you don't think race is a social construct?
Different puddles of muck.Wait, you don't think race is a social construct?
Faith is Hope (see Loki's sig for details)
If hindsight is 20-20, why is it so often ignored?
Pay them to go to school. What, are you trying to suggest that there is no money?
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
They don't have enough money to avoid starving to death (unless they force their kids into the job market), but somehow paying kids to go to school is a viable option?
What *are* you smoking, and where can I get some?
Or, much more likely, the corporation will just move its sweatshop to a different country and the poor oppressed, former sweatshop workers in where ever will return to subsistence farming, hooking and starvation.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.
Yeah, you see, in Bangladesh there are some people who are so poor and so fucked up that they think that sending their kids to work in sweatshops--or in brothels--is a good idea, and then there are many other people who are relatively wealthy. Moreover, us westerners have tons and tons of moneyThey don't have enough money to avoid starving to death (unless they force their kids into the job market), but somehow paying kids to go to school is a viable option?
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
I honestly don't know how I feel about Western corporations accepting the conditions in those sweatshops and even trying to prevent them from coming to light. Harrassment, abuse, beatings... these aren't things a western company should accept in its factories
"One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."
We established many times in the past that your knowledge of economics is nonexistent, but can you really think of no problem that would arise from billions of foreign dollars being pumped into an economy every year despite no increase in economic production? Then you add the fact that about 40% of Bengalis are under 18, and you're basically asking for a massive infusion of funds into the economy (and the price tag would be easily $100 billion if you simply give about $1500 for every child per year), which would not only lead to hyperinflation but create perverse incentives for people to actually have more children.
Edit: just realized that I ignored the issue of getting the money to the actual people who need it. I think we both know how utterly corrupt the Bengali bureaucracy is. Yet, any aid would have to through that bureaucracy. A best case scenario would be half that aid being siphoned off, and those who hand out the aid would have a huge amount of leverage over the people they give it to. This also teaches Bengalis that they shouldn't have any trust or loyalty toward their own government, as they have to depend on foreign handouts to survive. How do you think that would affect national cohesion and the willingness of Bengalis to respect their country's laws and institutions?
Hope is the denial of reality
Maybe "civilized" nations should tackle one country at a time, not thirty.
Or maybe development is a predominantly internal process.
Hope is the denial of reality
What's the point of the Red Cross? Or any organization deemed "benevolent", "good-natured", and "non-profit"?
I love how Americans are alright about having their government overthrow the current regime in foreign nations and violate their national sovereignty JUST to feel empowered since they can tell the populous when to masturbate. But when the government attempts to further entrench the power in itself, the world is going to end.
Am I doing this right? Give me some tips, I legitly wish to contribute here.
They are a disaster relief organization.What's the point of the Red Cross?
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Emergency relief (i.e. keep people from dying after a catastrophic event). It has nothing to do with development (i.e. long-term economic well-being).What's the point of the Red Cross? Or any organization deemed "benevolent", "good-natured", and "non-profit"?
Hope is the denial of reality
And, assuming he'd chosen a better example, predominately != totally.
The light that once I thought compassion still casting shadows in your action
The words you shared were cold transactions that bring me to curse what you've done
When you're up there absorbed in greatness with such success you've grown complacent
I hope you scorch your many faces when you fly too close to the sun
Do any non-profit organizations even advocate for infrastructural reforms nowadays? (Stupid question, but I really don't know the answer to it)
Yes. Oxfam comes to mind.
Hope is the denial of reality
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