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    Default Nobel Peace Prize is worthless now?

    Old stuff, but I personally don't think Obama deserved to receive it. Yes, he's done decent to great things, but I think the underlying reason as to why he did receive it was because "mah prezident is black" which is really fucked up.

    Anyone wanna tell me as to why he did deserve it for talking to a few people?

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    You know, I think you deserve one too. You know, I'm just kinda throwin' it out there

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    Thanks for trolling buddy. I'm glad to know there's always someone stupider than me. I can wake up in the morning, feel like shit, contemplate suicide, and read your posts to to my frown upside down.

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    You're right, the Oslo committee which decides the Nobel Prize winners definitely wanted to give it to their black president...

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    Put your parents on the line here young mage, I'd like to speak to them directly. After they check out all your posts here.

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    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ize/index.html

    (CNN) -- President Obama said Friday that he was "surprised and deeply humbled" by the decision of the Norwegian Nobel Committee to award him the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.
    President Obama, speaking Friday, said the award was "an affirmation of American leadership."

    The committee said it honored Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

    Obama said he viewed the decision less as a recognition of his own accomplishments and more as "a call to action."

    The decision appeared to catch most observers by surprise. Nominations for the prize had to be postmarked by February 1, only 12 days after Obama took office. The committee sent out its solicitation for nominations last September, two months before Obama was elected president.

    Obama had not been mentioned as among front-runners for the prize, and the roomful of reporters gasped when Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel committee, announced that the president was the winner.

    The Nobel committee recognized Obama's efforts at dialogue to solve complex global problems, including working toward a world free of nuclear weapons. Video Watch CNN's Christiane Amanpour's analysis »

    "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said.

    Jagland said the decision was "unanimous" and came with ease. Video Watch the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize announcement »

    He rejected the notion that Obama had been recognized prematurely for his efforts and said the committee wanted to promote the president just it had Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 for his efforts to open up the Soviet Union. Ed Rollins: Obama now must earn it

    "His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population," the committee said of Obama. Video Listen to Jagland explain why Obama was this year's choice »
    Choosing a winner
    # The Nobel Peace Prize winner is chosen by a five-member committee of lawmakers elected by the Norwegian parliament. Specially appointed advisers weigh in.
    # More than a year before the prize is awarded, the Nobel committee seeks nominations from members of governments and international courts, heads of universities, academics and previous Nobel laureates. Self-nominations are not allowed. The nomination deadline is in February.
    # The committee makes its final vote in October. The winner is determined by a simple majority vote.

    Obama said he did not feel he deserved "to be in the company" of past Peace Prize winners, but would accept the prize while pushing for a broad range of international objectives, including nuclear nonproliferation, a reversal of the global economic downturn and a resolution of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

    He also acknowledged the ongoing U.S. conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, noting that he is the "commander in chief of a country that is responsible for ending a war and working in another theater to confront a ruthless adversary that directly threatens the American people" and U.S. allies.

    "This award is not simply about my administration," he said. It "must be shared" with everyone who strives for "justice and dignity." Video Watch Obama react to receiving the prize »

    It was just before 6 a.m. that the president learned he had won the award, said Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary. The announcement by the committee caught the White House off guard. One senior administration official said that "we were quite surprised."

    Some analysts have speculated that the prize could give Obama additional clout as he forms a new strategy for the war in Afghanistan and attempts to engage Iran and North Korea. Another senior administration official told CNN he hopes the White House can "use it for the positive."

    The domestic political consequences are unclear. Obama's supporters hope the prestige associated with the prize will strengthen the president's hand in the health care reform debate. A top Republican from George W. Bush's administration, however, argued that "this will backfire on them for a while" and asserted it was "a gift to the right." Zakaria: Nobel honors Obama's 'bold gambit'

    Obama, the first African-American to win the White House, is the fourth U.S. president to win the prestigious prize and the third sitting president to do so.

    Former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, last year's laureate, said it was clear the Nobel committee wanted to encourage Obama on the issues he has been discussing on the world stage.

    "I see this as an important encouragement," Ahtisaari said.

    The committee wanted to be "far more daring" than in recent times and make an impact on global politics, said Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of the International Peace Research Institute. Praise, skepticism greet Nobel announcement
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    While most Nobel prizes are awarded by committees based in Sweden, the Peace Prize is determined by a five-member panel appointed by the Norwegian parliament.

    Wangari Muta Maathai, the Kenyan environmentalist who won the 2004 Peace Prize, said the win for Obama, whose father was Kenyan, will help Africa move forward.

    "I think it is extraordinary," she said. "It will be even greater inspiration for the world. He has shown how we can probably come together, work together in a cooperative way."

    Mohamed ElBaradei, who won the 2005 Peace Prize for his efforts to prevent nuclear energy being used for military means, said Obama deserved to win for his efforts to bring Iran to the table for direct nuclear talks with the United States.

    "I could not think of anybody who is more deserving," said ElBaradei, the chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency. Video Listen to ElBaradei react to the announcement »

    The award comes at a crucial time for Obama, who has multiple administration officials dispatched on global peace missions.

    Obama's envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell, has returned to the region to advocate for peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians. Mitchell met Thursday with Israeli President Shimon Peres. He plans to meet Friday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before talking with Palestinian leaders in the West Bank. A view from Egypt: Obama honor premature

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was starting a six-day trip to Russia and Europe on Friday. On the trip, the secretary will discuss the next steps on Iran and North Korea, and international efforts to have the two countries end their nuclear programs.

    The centerpiece of the trip will be her visit to Moscow, where she will work toward an agreement to take the place of the Start II arms control pact, which expires December 5. She also will address the new bilateral presidential commission that is working on a broad range of issues, from arms control to health.

    "This is an encouragement to this president to continue to follow through on those commitments when, inevitably, he hits the bump in the road," said John King, CNN chief national correspondent .

    "The committee is essentially saying, 'Stay at it, Mr. President. You have our prestige behind you now.' " Laureates to Nobel winners: Prepare for 'lightning bolt'

    King noted that the Nobel Committee pushes "multilateralism around the world [and] very much disliked the prior U.S. president [George W. Bush]. ... This is in part a reflection of that as well."

    Bush was heavily criticized during his presidency for what some observers said was an excessive reliance on unilateral action and U.S. military power.

    In a statement announcing its decision, the committee said that multilateral diplomacy "has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts." Obama unique among presidential Nobel winners

    The decision of the international committee to award Obama the prize highlights the sharp contrast in views toward the president at home and abroad. Video Watch how online community reacted »

    Obama remains extraordinarily popular overseas, particularly in Western Europe. A recent Pew Research Center survey found that more than three-quarters of respondents in Britain, Germany, France and Spain approve of Obama's foreign policy.

    In the United States, however, Obama's overall approval ratings have declined. An October 1-5 Associated Press poll showed that 56 percent of Americans approved of Obama's job performance. A September 17-20 NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found that only half of all Americans backed his handling of foreign policy.

    The split perception was illustrated earlier this year by a U.S. university's decision to deny Obama an honorary degree when he delivered a commencement address at the school. While the Nobel Committee on Friday praised Obama for his "extraordinary effort," a spokesman for Arizona State University said last spring that Obama's "body of work is yet to come. That's why we're not recognizing him with a degree at the beginning of his presidency." Video Watch John McCain's reaction to Obama being awarded prize »

    The last sitting U.S. president to win the peace prize was Woodrow Wilson in 1919. The other was Theodore Roosevelt in 1906. Jimmy Carter had been out of office for more than two decades when he won in 2002.
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    This year's Peace Prize nominees included 172 people -- among them three Chinese dissidents, an Afghan activist and a controversial Colombian lawmaker -- and 33 organizations, the highest number of nominations ever.

    The Nobel recipient receives a prize of about $1.4 million. Obama plans to donate the money to charity, a White House spokesman said
    Seems like he got a prize for talking to people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    Put your parents on the line here young mage, I'd like to speak to them directly. After they check out all your posts here.
    Let me talk to your parents first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Let me talk to your parents first.
    They're dead. Next question.

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    Really? My condolences.

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    All Nobel prizes come with ~$1 million. So, no, not worthless.

    That said, he probably won it because the Scandihoovians finally got on board with the rest of the world and decided that Arabs and Afghans aren't really people, so blowing them up isn't incompatible with being "peaceful."
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    I still think he got an award for sitting on his coach at home making >prank< phone calls. Who the hell seriously believes one man can successfully de-polarize this world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    I still think he got an award for sitting on his coach at home making >prank< phone calls.
    It was a "we hate G. W. Bush" award, and that's the only reason Obama got it.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    The Nobel peace prize has been illegitimate for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracky View Post
    The Nobel peace prize has been illegitimate for decades.
    True that. At least this year they didn't give it out to a self-admitted terrorist, eh?
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    It was a "we hate G. W. Bush" award, and that's the only reason Obama got it.
    Honestly...I kind of agree with that. More than half the American population hated Bush, the world ridiculed Bush and America during his presidency. I lived in France during Bush's first term and in Canada during his second term; Bush was depicted as a monkey by the media and I recall having my teachers tell me how far the stupid Americans were because Bush was able to attend an Ivy League school. Well, either that OR how corrupt America is because Bush bought his way in. Wait, they were just socialists, they can't possibly be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    True that. At least this year they didn't give it out to a self-admitted terrorist, eh?
    I think they like to alternate with that one. Keep things fresh!

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    You mean it was ever a credible prize? It has historically gone to individuals who through their delusions believed that they would bring peace but instead brought war.
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Wait, they were just socialists, they can't possibly be right.
    That's far from the only reason that Canadians and French people can't ever be right.
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenCain View Post
    That's far from the only reason that Canadians and French people can't ever be right.

    The hidden hypocrisy* here is astounding.

    *Wait, that's the wrong word. What is ist when you say two contradictory things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracky View Post
    The hidden hypocrisy* here is astounding.

    *Wait, that's the wrong word. What is ist when you say two contradictory things?
    An oxymoron. As in jumbo shrimp.

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    I think paradox is more along the lines of what you're looking for.

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    Mmmm, i'm thinking just straight-up contradiction now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracky View Post
    Mmmm, i'm thinking just straight-up contradiction now.
    What's contradictory about it?

    I thought it was taken as a given by the rest of the world that French and Canadians were always wrong. (To say nothing of the horrors of French-Canadians.) What am I missing?
    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -- Thomas Jefferson: American Founding Father, clairvoyant and seditious traitor.

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    I have both the French and Canadian citizenships and I have my native country's passport...

    Am I almost as hated as a gay black jew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    I have both the French and Canadian citizenships and I have my native country's passport...
    So you're here in the US on a visa?
    . . .

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    Actually I'm an illigal immigrant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Mage View Post
    Actually I'm an illigal immigrant...
    Well if both your statements are true there is going to be all sorts of hilarity when you apply to college...
    . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Well if both your statements are true there is going to be all sorts of hilarity when you apply to college...
    Yeah, i'm on a visa. My dad was offered a pretty good job as a senior manager at Samsung here, so we just moved here and my mom found a job too. I doubt I'll be deported because my parents actually do work and stimulate the economy like those drug dealing aie aie aie fiestas

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    Oh, look, it's Young Mage MiniCain.

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