What made you go WTF today?

[littlelolligagged]

When you head to the restroom to do your business, you don't expect to see a face staring at you, especially one of a politician.

"One of our regulars walked out and said, 'Whose face am I peeing on?'" said Angela Johnson, a bartender at Lansdowne Street in Bonita Springs, Florida.

The face popping up on urinal pucks around Bonita Springs is that of fire commissioner candidate and former city councilman Pat McCourt.

A group called Citizens Against Destruction claimed responsibility for releasing the cakes into the public - naming the Lansdowne Street Pub and the Hickory Fishing Nook as two of many locations where people could "express their feelings about McCourt."

They say he's gone on record in the past about running the Bonita Springs Fire Department on bare bones.

"We didn't know it was done," said Johnson. "In fact it was brought to our attention yesterday. I had no idea."

We went to both businesses listed in the email and both times staff members said they were so worried about what was happening at the front of their business, they had no idea what was happening in the bathroom.

"For all I know it could have been there a week; I don't know," said Joe Dodd, a chef at the Hickory Fishing Nook.

No one asked business owners if they could place the political puck and that has employees at the Hickory Fishing Nook upset over who it may have offended.

"Customers coming in and obviously don't want to see someone's face in a urinal," said Dodd. "So, we'll take them out."

McCourt said he did not want to dignify the campaign with a response.

Torre Wisher, a server at the Fishing Nook, is betting that he's not smiling about it.

"He's probably not very happy, I'm not sure what he can do about it," Wisher said.

For now though, all he can do is hope for the last laugh on Election Day.

[Being]

Pizza without pork? Really?

[GGT]

Wimbledon....those guys played 10 hours straight. Just one night off. Why won't the officials give them another day to recover? WTF?

[Timbuk2]

Wimbledon....those guys played 10 hours straight. Just one night off. Why won't the officials give them another day to recover? WTF?

Pff. Real men can play 20 hours straight. 10 hours is for wimps.

~

Well, that record-breaking game is finally over. Longest game in the history of competitive tennis.

The American, Isner, beat Mahut from France, 70-68 in the fifth set.

The game, which finally ended this afternoon, took 3 days to complete, totalling 11 hours 6 mins.

[GGT]

Amazing. They had to have gotten IV fluids. That's legal, right?

[Hazir]

Yesterday in the news in Holland; man lives in a small house with 1 brother and 2 sisters. Some time in 2006 he tells his siblings he doesn't feel to well and that he'll go to bed. He asks them not to disturb him. Four years later the company that rents them the house wants to do some work on the place and sends an inspector. This is the first time the family decides to risk disturbing their brother. He's found dead in his bed, the body entirely mummified. Probably he died shortly after lying down for a rest in 2006.

His siblings never noticed anything funny.

[Timbuk2]

Apple issues advice to avoid iPhone flaw



Apple has released official advice for iPhone 4 owners to overcome the problem of the device losing signal when held by the lower left corner.
Steve Jobs responded to a query about the problem from one owner by saying: "Just avoid holding it in that way."


Muuuhhhhh

[Nessus]

Apple: For vapid airheads, by vapid airheads

(I miss Interplay )

[Hazir]

Apple issues advice to avoid iPhone flaw



Apple has released official advice for iPhone 4 owners to overcome the problem of the device losing signal when held by the lower left corner.
Steve Jobs responded to a query about the problem from one owner by saying: "Just avoid holding it in that way."


Muuuhhhhh

Yeah, that's pretty incredible. It simply shouldn't happen with a device of that price category.

[Ominous Gamer]

I wanted to post that so bad yesterday, but the vast amount of star wars force photoshops, and the insane amount of promotional material (including Steve Jobs) holding it in the now incorrect way...I couldn't post only the article but also couldn't limit the choice of which pictures to use.

[Catgrrl]

My bro got the new phone, and he's a lefty. I'll have to ask him if he has had a problem yet.

[Nessus]

Amerika, I realize you wish you were worth even a smidgen of Nazi Germany, but

You've picked the worst of the lot, you're failing, and you are destroying human beings while pretending to be a global police

So, I guess Lewk is happy, yay

Low-key, which party should a voter vote for, in case they wanted to change all this? You're such an ardent defender of the two-party system, so explain how the two polarized parties, neither of which have much interest in the human rights of people who're banned from voting, will help any of these people

Explain this to me

[littlelolligagged]

Jew-pork

[Loki]

Amerika, I realize you wish you were worth even a smidgen of Nazi Germany, but

You've picked the worst of the lot, you're failing, and you are destroying human beings while pretending to be a global police

So, I guess Lewk is happy, yay

Low-key, which party should a voter vote for, in case they wanted to change all this? You're such an ardent defender of the two-party system, so explain how the two polarized parties, neither of which have much interest in the human rights of people who're banned from voting, will help any of these people

Explain this to me

We have plenty of parties in America; most just don't get votes. If a sufficient number of people cared about this issue, A) a small party would make a lot of noise campaigning for it, and B) one of the larger parties would adopt the issue as part of its platform. The reality is that a vast majority of people don't give a damn, which is why neither A nor B are going to happen.

[Hazir]

Or maybe the reality is that small parties simply don't have the means to even get their names accross to voters. Or are entirely ignored by the media.

[Loki]

Or maybe the reality is that small parties simply don't have the means to even get their names accross to voters. Or are entirely ignored by the media.

America has a long history of singe-issue parties raising havoc and having their ideas copied by one of the parties. In these instances, the parties get support not because they have any resources (they don't), but because they express a popular view that's ignored by the two main parties. That's simply not the case with torture, which most people either implicitly support or don't care enough about to vote single-issue.

[Nessus]

We have plenty of parties in America; most just don't get votes. If a sufficient number of people cared about this issue, A) a small party would make a lot of noise campaigning for it, and B) one of the larger parties would adopt the issue as part of its platform. The reality is that a vast majority of people don't give a damn, which is why neither A nor B are going to happen.

Hoh hoh ho!

This isn't your usual line

You've gone out of your way to scream at innocent young Euro people how the Murikan system is more efficient, leads to more compromise and is all around better than having 11 parties to choose from come voting day

So how does that work here, exactly

Or, to pick a more poignant and less "someone raped someone's kid" example

How should a young and aspiring faggot vote?

One party actively hates them and the other doesn't much care

I guess keep voting for the dems and hoping that someone somewhere gets a bug up their ass? :/

[Hazir]

Hoh hoh ho!

This isn't your usual line

You've gone out of your way to scream at innocent young Euro people how the Murikan system is more efficient, leads to more compromise and is all around better than having 11 parties to choose from come voting day

So how does that work here, exactly

Or, to pick a more poignant and less "someone raped someone's kid" example

How should a young and aspiring faggot vote?

One party actively hates them and the other doesn't much care

I guess keep voting for the dems and hoping that someone somewhere gets a bug up their ass? :/

Sounds like you nailed down the actual situation in the US. Like how decisive action on 'don't ask don't tell' means installing yet another commission inquiring the military of whether or not the US armed forces will collapse upon itself if they no longer force their gay servicemen and women into the closet, again.

[Flixy]

Sounds like you nailed down the actual situation in the US. Like how decisive action on 'don't ask don't tell' means installing yet another commission inquiring the military of whether or not the US armed forces will collapse upon itself if they no longer force their gay servicemen and women into the closet, again.

Well, we all know gay servicemen are the reason Srebrenica fell.

[Loki]

How should a young and aspiring faggot vote?

One party actively hates them and the other doesn't much care

I guess keep voting for the dems and hoping that someone somewhere gets a bug up their ass? :/

If all gays (or even a majority) became strict one-issue voters and refused to vote for anyone who didn't take explicit steps to grant them equal rights, you can be sure that the DNC would push much harder for gay rights. The reality is that the DNC knows it will get most of the gay vote by just giving some lip service to gay rights, which is why progress on issues like gay marriage and gays in the military has been so slow.

[Khendraja'aro]

I'm not exactly sure that "one-issue voters" would work in the US. Because that would actually lead to a whole lot of non-voters. I mean, if you've got only two choices then your options are quite limited.

Over here we have the Greens who are quite open on such issues, the liberals (FDP) with an actually gay leader at the helm, the socialists (SPD) don't care, the Christians, well, they don't like it but Hamburg's mayor is still gay and member of the CDU, the Left I don't honestly know their position on this. And then you have several smaller parties at the communal level and the independent ones.

Makes finding someone whose positions you like a lot easier than a trinary choice (Vote A / Vote B / Don't vote).

I find it interesting that you're advocating "choice" when it comes to market forces, but when it comes to government, suddenly bigger is better. Weird, that.

[Loki]

I'm not exactly sure that "one-issue voters" would work in the US. Because that would actually lead to a whole lot of non-voters. I mean, if you've got only two choices then your options are quite limited.

A) We have something called primaries.
B) A Democrat will lose as quickly from gays voting Republican as he will from gays simply choosing not to vote.

[GGT]

America has a long history of singe-issue parties raising havoc and having their ideas copied by one of the parties. In these instances, the parties get support not because they have any resources (they don't), but because they express a popular view that's ignored by the two main parties. That's simply not the case with torture, which most people either implicitly support or don't care enough about to vote single-issue.

I bolded the part of your post that is patently false. Most people do NOT implicitly SUPPORT torture.

Just because they don't take that single issue and run with it when they vote doesn't mean it's not an important issue. Mostly, it means we don't really know what's happening in our jails and prisons. Unless there's a journalism expose piece or a watchdog group that can smuggle out images. Or ACLU suing wardens or state prison authorities.

Nessie, that was a disturbing video, I had to stop at 3 minutes.

[Loki]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/06/bush.torture/
http://pewforum.org/Politics-and-Ele...re-Debate.aspx

Can you please stop inventing your own facts?

[GGT]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/06/bush.torture/
http://pewforum.org/Politics-and-Ele...re-Debate.aspx

Can you please stop inventing your own facts?

Did someone pee in your corn flakes, Loki? WTF.

The "torture of suspected terrorists" and interrogation isn't quite the same as "torture of any prisoner". I didn't watch the video beyond 3 minutes, but it was in Missouli, Texas. In a US prison, when Bush was Governor of Texas.

It's a Human Rights issue. But most Americans probably think there aren't violations in US prisons. Ask them about teh terrorists who try to bomb planes and they may give a different answer. ie one form of treatment for "general criminals" and another for "evil terrorists". That doesn't mean they want to see our prisons be like Abu Ghraib.

[Loki]

Nice debating strategy. Keep on making ridiculous claims, and move on to new ones the second previous claims are proven wrong.

[littlelolligagged]

Did someone pee in your corn flakes, Loki? WTF.

The "torture of suspected terrorists" and interrogation isn't quite the same as "torture of any prisoner". I didn't watch the video beyond 3 minutes, but it was in Missouli, Texas. In a US prison, when Bush was Governor of Texas.

It's a Human Rights issue. But most Americans probably think there aren't violations in US prisons. Ask them about teh terrorists who try to bomb planes and they may give a different answer. ie one form of treatment for "general criminals" and another for "evil terrorists". That doesn't mean they want to see our prisons be like Abu Ghraib.

And you wonder why the entire fucking world has a low opinion of Americans.

The hell "torture of suspected terrorists" and interrogation isn't the same as "torture of any prisoner." They are human beings - and even animals don't deserve that sort of treatment.

[GGT]

Nice debating strategy. Keep on making ridiculous claims, and move on to new ones the second previous claims are proven wrong.

WTF, it's the WTF thread, not a formal debate. We already had a thread about torture for interrogation of suspected terrorists, but not one for treatment of general prison inmates. Start a thread.

And you wonder why the entire fucking world has a low opinion of Americans.

The hell "torture of suspected terrorists" and interrogation isn't the same as "torture of any prisoner." They are human beings - and even animals don't deserve that sort of treatment.

I said it was a Human Rights issue. No one deserves that type of treatment. Loki's sources show Pew polls that (depending on religion) some people are fine with torture of TERRORISTS.

I'm saying most Americans don't think US prisons use torture for the general population. Or think prisons operate like Abu Ghraib.

It's not my fault the US has some messed up policies, or that there are arguments about whether foreign nationals accused of terrorism even have Miranda Rights.

[GGT]

So WTF Loki, why not answer Nessie's question about which party to vote for, if one cares about Human Rights?

Instead of getting into an analysis of our fucked up two party system, with one set of 'rules' for gays, illegals, military, or terrorists, you could have just admitted Democrats (in general) have a better track record than Republicans when it comes to Human Rights and Social Justice.

Explain it now, since that's what she asked for. I'd like to see your explanation, too.

[Nessus]

If all gays (or even a majority) became strict one-issue voters and refused to vote for anyone who didn't take explicit steps to grant them equal rights, you can be sure that the DNC would push much harder for gay rights. The reality is that the DNC knows it will get most of the gay vote by just giving some lip service to gay rights, which is why progress on issues like gay marriage and gays in the military has been so slow.

That's...What I said