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    Default Horizontal Academics and the Internet

    Karen Owen took kiss-and-tell to a whole new level when she combined her Duke University-honed academic acumen with her extracurricular wild side to create an elaborate sex list ranking the college men she bedded.

    But now the recent Duke grad finds herself red-faced over attention she never bargained for: Her tongue-in-cheek “unofficial senior thesis” on sex with Duke athletes spread from the three friends she originally e-mailed to the whole 14,000-strong student body and, eventually, to websites the whole world can see.

    “It’s funny because we know the people on it,” one Duke University student told NBC for a TODAY report on Owen’s now-infamous sex list.

    ‘Horizontal academics’
    Owen’s sex ranking is nothing if not precise. She took a list of 13 men she slept with, drawing mainly from Duke’s lacrosse team — the same team that was embroiled in a sex scandal of its own in 2006 — and created a bar graph ranking their sexual prowess. She left little to the imagination in creating a 42-slide PowerPoint presentation, detailing sex in the university library during finals week, sex in cars and, most of all, sex while inebriated.

    “In my blackout state, still managed to crawl into bed with a Duke athlete,” Owen commented on one escapade.
    Owen called her presentation “An education beyond the classroom: excelling in the realm of horizontal academics,” and was clearly having fun mixing her book smarts with her partying experience. She treated her sex ranking as a full-on thesis, writing, “Senior year and college in general often bring about certain situations that result in the seeking of so-called ‘sex.’ Until now, no studies have succeeded in developing a methodology for quantifying and ranking these so-called horizontal academics. In this study, we used data from four years at Duke University to create evaluation criteria for such encounters and applied these criteria to evaluated subjects.”

    TODAY
    Karen Owen’s presentation included a bar chart rating her lovers’ performance.
    While Owen was obviously not serious in her clinical rankings of her lovers’ sex skills, she may have done too good a job: The friends she e-mailed couldn’t keep it to themselves and began hitting the “forward” button on their e-mail accounts. Thus Owen now finds herself one of the most infamous authors in the country.

    And while she was initially full of bluster, saying she’s “got some fantastic stories for the grandkids,” Owen is now sorry that her list has become a viral sensation. “I regret it with all my heart,” she told the Jezebel.com website. “I would never intentionally hurt the people that are mentioned on that.”

    Video: Duke alum’s sex-rating report goes viral (on this page)
    Owen names names in her presentation, including one unfortunate student of whom she said, “it was over too quickly.” Duke University issued a statement saying it was “reaching out to those who’ve been affected by this incident,” and athletes on the list are less than thrilled, some reportedly regarding the report as harassment.

    ‘Teachable moment’
    It’s another sore point at Duke, which is one of the most prestigious universities in the country but is still smarting from the black eye of the lacrosse team scandal, in which a stripper hired for a team party accused three team members of sexually assaulting her. While the charges were dropped, the infamy remains.

    Internet safety expert Donna Rice Hughes pointed to the scandal as a “teachable moment.”
    “The last thing this university needed was something like this,” a Duke student told NBC.
    Speaking with Meredith Vieira on TODAY, Internet safety expert Donna Rice Hughes called the Owen paper “a teachable moment,” saying parents need to get involved early on in their children’s lives to instill Internet discretion.

    “It’s so important when we see these stories to not think your child is immune, because your child is not immune to any Internet dangers,” she told Vieira. “We need to teach our kids; they need to think before they post. They really need to think twice about whether or not they even want to send to a personal friend.”

    Rice Hughes also lamented, “There seems to be a lack of modesty or discretion even among our girls.”

    But Owen’s lack of discretion has also made her a hot property. After Jezebel.com posted her sex presentation, the site heard from several publishers looking to contact her.

    “Even though I’m sure she’s horrified that her, uh, presentation, which was intended for a small group of friends, has gone viral, she’s a very good, funny writer, and I’m wondering if she has any interest in writing a book,” a HarperCollins editor wrote to the site.
    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/395528...-today_people/

    Whaddyathink?

    Sounds like a lot of mixed messages these days. After the Rutger's student committed suicide when he was outed (and secretly filmed having sex which went viral) and a young middle school girl killed herself after her breasts were sexted and went viral....everyone was condemning this type of internet Show and Tell.

    But the Duke students think this is "funny", and this girl may get a book deal?

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    I think it depends on how uptight you are about sex. I wouldn't want to see myself all over the net, but if something awkward like that would happen I would shrug it off all the same.
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    But if I found out that my girlfriend was a) a ho-bag and b) indiscreet about it, you can be darned sure I'd dump her.

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    Yeah, about the only thing I see coming out of this is a) Karen Owen is an easy lay and b) When are the Lacrosse guys going to get together and do a bar graph on Karen Owens sexual performance?

    Its one thing to be a slut, its another thing altogether to tell the world about it in detail and have the audacity to rate the performance of others - and before anyone says that she didn't put it on the net, bullshit! She made a power point presentation and sent it to other people. She knew damn well it would not stop there.
    Such is Life...

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    What about how to teach up-and-coming youth about the Intarwebs, trust, intimacy, sex, discretion, bullying, extortion......and hypocrisy? If parents and teachers keep telling younger kids how "dangerous" this can be, but they see this kind of blatant in-your-face that may lead to a book deal......

    Seriously. WTF? In my gut I know if this had been a Duke Lacrosse player who wrote a blog-quasi-thesis about the girls he had screwed, it would have a totally different connotation with totally different reactions. He'd probably be expelled. These kinds of mixed messages just aren't helpful. For anyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ']['ear View Post
    But if I found out that my girlfriend was a) a ho-bag and b) indiscreet about it, you can be darned sure I'd dump her.
    That's my big problem here - she's naming names. It seems to me that you really need your fuck-toy's consent before doing that.

    Hell, I wouldn't even identify someone I had sex with (or even went out on a date with) in a private one-on-one conversation with a close friend, let alone spread it to multiple people.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    That's my big problem here - she's naming names. It seems to me that you really need your fuck-toy's consent before doing that.

    Hell, I wouldn't even identify someone I had sex with (or even went out on a date with) in a private one-on-one conversation with a close friend, let alone spread it to multiple people.
    If that's what's the big problem for you, does that mean you'd teach your kids that way? As in, do what you want, be predatory if it's "fun", take pictures and post them on the web, just don't name names. ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGT View Post
    If that's what's the big problem for you, does that mean you'd teach your kids that way? As in, do what you want, be predatory if it's "fun", take pictures and post them on the web, just don't name names. ???
    Taking pictures and posting them on the web is identifying a sex partner, last time I checked.

    I have no clue what you mean by predatory.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    You can take pictures below the waist, and not use names. That isn't really identifying partners. Would that still be "okay" when teaching children?

    By predatory I meant this woman seemed to be on a quest, to write about Sex in College, and used as many men as she could for that intended purpose. Predatory may have been the wrong word to use. But I can't think of a better word right now. Exploitative?

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    I'm not sure how it is that you think teaching children to respect privacy and expect consent is a bad thing. It's hardly the only thing they should be taught, but it's irrelevant, anyway.


    This woman is an adult. She's more than welcome to fuck whomever she wants to, whenever she wants to. I hope she used protection with all of them. She shouldn't have been announcing who she screwed. But it is hardly predatory or exploitative. If she had wanted to write about sex in college without naming names, what's the harm (other than possibly to her own self-esteem).
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    I was thinking more of the affects this kind of expression has on kids. Baby's first web site by 6 months of age, their own blog by second grade. Weaned on internet, savvy at following 'footprints', finding mommy's sex paper in archives, daddy's little black book on Facebook.....

    Remember that mother who posed as a peer to 'friend' her own child, so she could read the private page? People like Spitzer or Tiger Woods getting caught from text histories? It seems adults are forgetting that all of this stuff may one day be accessed by their future kids. So it'll be a "Do as I say, not as I do" type of parenting?

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    I'd imagine any parent has done something they'd really prefer their kids didn't take up. I sure as hell have (not recently). It's just a part of growing up.

    Kids today are lucky in that they can already see that the choices they make will stick with them and be accessible to all - they are far more likely to be careful than previous generations.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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    I think it's different now. Parents can't really let their past fade away quietly, or keep all things private. Not if they're putting their lives on the internet, beginning in grade school.

    Even adults are finding that out the hard way, when applying for jobs or getting fired for Myspace or Facebook entries. I'm not convinced young kids really grasp the power and longevity of their digital footprints. And they're not so "lucky" that bullying can follow them longer and harder than ever before.

    I suppose we'll find out over time....

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