Lewk, we moved into the dynamics and principles of what is best to encourage healthy behavior / discourage unhealthy behavior. Pretty sure the consensus was that adding a Fat Tax just for Medicaid recipients is not only stupid, but punitive to poor people who rely on both food and healthcare assistance.Originally Posted by Lewkowski
Start making sense and stop just writing and assuming we know specifically what your whining about.I don't think you're understanding a single word you're reading/posting
You, lewkowski, seem to be repeating posts other users have already made using real and current information.
This oversight was brought to your attention, and a suggestion to read the thread was made.
Then you, lewkowski, have continuously failed to show a working grasp on the thread content and discussion, assumingly after an attempt to read the thread.
This, again, was brought to your attention.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Your not making any sense. Can you quote what your talking about?
Order of posts have been rearranged to more clearly demonstrate your complete lack of reading comprehension.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
So what is the issue with bringing up the fact that smokers cost less money? Look I get that the thread was originally about food but smoking is a related issue. They are two sides of the same coin. I don't see why your getting so bent out of shape about it.
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I hereby declare this example excuse enough to return to my previous posting behavior of calling a lewk a dumbass everytime he posts something trollish, slanted, retarded, without thought, or if it would qualify for astro-turfing. He can't possibly have survived this long if he truly is this stupid.
Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 04-08-2011 at 01:51 AM.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
He did. He let you know specifically what his issue was *rather than just alluding to it and waiting for you to acknowledge the connection* two posts prior. You came in asking "isn't this true for smoking as well" when he'd just cited a study saying exactly that one page earlier. As usual he spent too much time first belittling and berating, but he did finally do it, and you still didn't pay enough attention to notice it.
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ffs tobacco is NOT a fatty food
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If you had a tobacco salad, with a low fat dressing, it would be very light.
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Others suggested a tax on fatty foods (*as was done for tobacco with a vice or sin tax, to discourage consumption by hitting the pocket book*)ffs tobacco is NOT a fatty food
I suggested that.Its a good idea. It's not just an incentive for people to buy healthier food, its an incentive for food producers and providers to make their products healthier. How about a weight based income tax deduction? If your weight in relation to you age/height/build, per your doctor, are in some specified target zone, you get an extra $50 bucks back on your taxes. Yay! We could do the same with blood pressure, blood sugar, and cholesterol.
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And liberals will raise up a hue and cry about how this is unfair to the poor.I suggested that.
I am a liberal.
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I's support taxing fatty foods if those taxes were used to help lower the price of better foods. I've posted a comic along similar lines for energy matters.
Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 04-09-2011 at 10:39 PM.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
What's unfair to the poor is taxing their access to health services, based on a condition/lifestyle that is connected to their poverty. I'd think even compassionate conservatives would find that objectionable. Taxing a product would at least affect everyone who buys it, regardless of their social status.
Not sure tax deductions make much sense for incentivizing poor people, since those at poverty income don't pay income taxes, let alone itemize deductions.
Give them money back anyway. The incentive is pretty cheap considering the save in health care costs.
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I'm making the point that the poor tend to be the unhealthy eaters. As they make poor choices in their financial lives they also make poor choices when it comes to their bodies. And since liberals always look at things from the lens of "the poor" they will immediately says this incentive favors the rich since they tend to be healthier.I am a liberal.
Liberals also tend to be a lot smarter.
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Now I know you had a huge problem with my following remark in the last thread, and I know you've had issues before understanding available choices and feasible options; but it needs said anyway:
Read the thread dumbass.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
Think about this: healthy food costs more than unhealthy food and places that sell healthy food often don't locate in poor urban areas. Poor choices indeed.
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Oh please do we need to go back to the poor thread about what that group of folks on average does with their money? RAL, lottery tickets and pay day loans?Think about this: healthy food costs more than unhealthy food and places that sell healthy food often don't locate in poor urban areas. Poor choices indeed.
There is a reason that poor people are more obese then rich people. And if you think it is only the price difference with healthy foods you are remarkably naive.
Looks like some re-reading of said thread would do you some good.
"In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."
So does that make Lewk a Calvinist, or what?
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Might that reason be that poverty, like obesity, is often passed down from parents to children?
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If the wealthy have better diets and excellent healthcare, that'd mean better chances for living longer. Unlike the poor, smokers or obese who die earlier and cost less than healthy people.
That means wealthy seniors will draw from SS and Medicare for years or decades, adding billions to entitlement programs costs. Now we know why those programs are wreaking havoc on the budget --- those rich people living to 85 or 90 years old!
Yes but let's not forget that they die early and without creating wealth and awesomeness for their society or for their fellow human beings
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Cynicism this deep is the enemy of campassion and actual knowledge of a circumstance. What is the reason poor people are more obese than rich people? You never said.
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