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    Default Fifty Shades of Grey

    It did not escape the notice of Tim Cole, the collections manager for the Greensboro Public Library in North Carolina, that “Fifty Shades of Grey” was “of mixed literary merit,” as he put it with a heavy helping of Southern politeness.

    He ordered 21 copies anyway.

    His customers had spoken, Mr. Cole said, and like other library officials across the country, he had gotten the message: Readers wanted the “Fifty Shades of Grey” trilogy. In recent weeks they have besieged libraries with requests for the books, signaling a new wave of popularity for these erotic novels, which have become the best-selling titles in the nation this spring.

    In some cases demand has been so great that it has forced exasperated library officials to dust off their policies — if they have them — on erotica.

    In April the trilogy, which includes the titles “Fifty Shades Darker” and “Fifty Shades Freed,” was issued in paperback by Vintage Books, part of the Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group, sending sales through the roof when the publisher printed and distributed the books widely for the first time.

    That enthusiasm has carried over to libraries. At many, “Fifty Shades of Grey,” by the previously unknown British author E. L. James, is the most popular book in circulation, with more holds than anyone can remember on a single title (2,121 and counting last Friday at the Hennepin County Public Library, which includes Minneapolis, up from 942 on April 9).

    But despite misgivings about the subject matter — the books tell the tale of a dominant-submissive affair between a manipulative millionaire and a naïve younger woman — library officials feel that they need to make it available.

    “This is the ‘Lady Chatterley’s Lover’ of 2012,” Mr. Cole said. “Demand is a big issue with us, because we want to be able to provide popular best-selling material to our patrons.”

    But some libraries have been caught on the other side of the issue. The Brevard County Public Library in east central Florida pulled copies of the books from its shelves after library officials decided they were not appropriate for the public.

    “We have criteria that we use, and in this case we view this as pornographic material,” said Don Walker, a spokesman for the Brevard County government.

    In Fond du Lac, Wis., the library did not order any copies, saying the books did not meet the standards of the community. In Georgia the Gwinnett County Public Library, near Atlanta, declined to make the books available in its 15 branches, saying that the trilogy’s graphic writing violated its no-erotica policy.

    Last week a group of organizations that included the National Coalition Against Censorship formally responded, sending a letter to the library board in Brevard County scolding it for refusing to stock the book alongside standards like “Tropic of Cancer” or “Fear of Flying.”

    “There is no rational basis to provide access to erotic novels like these, and at the same time exclude contemporary fiction with similar content,” the letter said. “The very act of rejecting erotica as a category suitable for public libraries sends an unmistakable message of condemnation that is moralistic in tone, and totally inappropriate in a public institution dedicated to serving the needs and interests of all members of the community.”

    Joan Bertin, the executive director of the National Coalition Against Censorship, said in an interview that it was unusual for a library to remove a book from its section for adults.

    “The vast majority of cases that we deal with have to do with removing books to keep kids from seeing them,” she said. “That’s what makes this so egregious. There are some possible arguments for trying to keep kids away from certain kinds of content, but in the case of adults, other than the restrictions on obscenity and child pornography, there’s simply no excuse. This is really very much against the norms in the profession.”

    Vintage, which is part of Random House, said in a statement, “Random House fervently opposes literary censorship and supports the First Amendment rights of readers to make their own reading choices. We believe the Brevard County Public Library System is indulging in an act of censorship, and essentially is saying to library patrons: We will judge what you can read.”

    Decisions about which books to stock tend to rest in the hands of local library officials, calculations based on what patrons are asking for and how much money a library system has to spend.

    The number of patrons waiting in line for “Fifty Shades of Grey” is extraordinary, higher than the usual demand for the latest John Grisham or Danielle Steel novel, library officials say.

    And the line is getting longer every week. At the Cuyahoga County Public Library in Ohio, a system that includes Cleveland, 454 holds were placed on the book in early April; last week there were 1,399.

    Robert J. Rua, an official with the Cuyahoga library, said they had bought 539 copies of the trilogy’s first book. There is no section for erotic fiction in the library, he said, so “Fifty Shades” has been placed among the other trade books for adults.

    Paul Bogaards, a spokesman for Vintage Books, declined to provide a current sales figure for the trilogy, but said millions had sold so far.

    Marcee Challener, the manager of materials and circulation services for the Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Libraries, said that library officials there carefully considered the book before ordering it, but ultimately decided that it was no different from one of the paranormal romances featuring vampires that have been popular for years.

    “There’s sex and eroticism in many well-written literary novels,” she said. “It’s part of the human experience.”


    But Ken Hall, the library director in Fond du Lac, said he would rather spend precious library funds on books that had literary or artistic value.

    Since the library publicly announced that it would not stock the book, he has been hounded by insults, with some people calling him a useless bureaucrat. But he said he had also received numerous compliments from residents urging him not to back down.

    “With this type of book, we will get somebody questioning our decision no matter what decision we make,” Mr. Hall said. “We live in an age where people don’t like to talk about gray areas. No pun intended.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/bo...gewanted=print


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    Indented and resized for easier quoting over quote tag. A news article about twilight fanfiction may push the line for D&D, but its been big at work. The bold part is my boss' boss' boss' opinion. I fully agree with what she says. Anyone else seen or heard any hoopla over this? From what I've seen so far, its no different than 90% of the romance paperbacks we offer the public.

    Oh, and we current sit at 773 holds for the 157 physical copies we currently have in the system (3 week checkout), and 477 holds for our 6 digital copies (2 week checkout).
    Last edited by Ominous Gamer; 05-22-2012 at 04:50 PM.
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    Damn. And here's me thinking this was a post pointing out the Lewkowskian fallacy that the world is black and white.

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    Is it time for another "Naked Came the Stranger"?

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8J1LDH20120801

    The UK needs to get its shit together.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    Wait, someone optioned the movie rights for that crap? Is this what the Mayans were warning us about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8J1LDH20120801

    The UK needs to get its shit together.
    "No sex please, we're British"

    So we'll buy substandard books which are about as erotic as a cup of tea instead.

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    I have no intention of reading this "mummy porn" but I know quite a few women who have got it. A number have said they got it to see what all the fuss was about and it was rubbish.

    Amazon's figures may not reflect traditional bookstores here though as it does seem to be popular to buy on Kindle's so people don't see what you're reading though LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    I have no intention of reading this "mummy porn" but I know quite a few women who have got it. A number have said they got it to see what all the fuss was about and it was rubbish.

    Amazon's figures may not reflect traditional bookstores here though as it does seem to be popular to buy on Kindle's so people don't see what you're reading though LOL.
    I bet the people that said it was "rubbish" finished it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbuk2 View Post
    "No sex please, we're British"

    So we'll buy substandard books which are about as erotic as a cup of tea instead.
    My impression was that the title was noteworthy *for something besides sales* because it was consensual D/S as mainstream lit.
    Last night as I lay in bed, looking up at the stars, I thought, “Where the hell is my ceiling?"

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    These are my favourite books right now and no I haven't read them
    "One day, we shall die. All the other days, we shall live."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Amazon's figures may not reflect traditional bookstores here though as it does seem to be popular to buy on Kindle's so people don't see what you're reading though LOL.
    Our physical copies are still in much higher demand than the epub or kindle versions.
    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    A few of the Tesco/Sainsbury's express stores here in London only carry this book (and no other books).
    Hope is the denial of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    A few of the Tesco/Sainsbury's express stores here in London only carry this book (and no other books).
    Orwellian times are upon Albion at last
    In the future, the Berlin wall will be a mile high, and made of steel. You too will be made to crawl, to lick children's blood from jackboots. There will be no creativity, only productivity. Instead of love there will be fear and distrust, instead of surrender there will be submission. Contact will be replaced with isolation, and joy with shame. Hope will cease to exist as a concept. The Earth will be covered with steel and concrete. There will be an electronic policeman in every head. Your children will be born in chains, live only to serve, and die in anguish and ignorance.
    The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    Our physical copies are still in much higher demand than the epub or kindle versions.
    Relative to normal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer View Post
    ℬeing upset is understandable, but be upset at yourself for poor planning, not at the world by acting like a spoiled bitch during an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandBlade View Post
    Relative to normal?
    I'd risk to say its more loopsided against than our other titles considering the growth in popularity of our electronic collections. Personally I’d say its a mix of several factors, largely surrounding age. From not knowing, and having no concern in learning, how such technology works, to simply outgrowing the shame that some people would fret over. We have a running joke around here about how many over 50 callers we get asking for us to reserve one of the 3 titles.
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    It sounds like a rather shitty book, to be honest. But hey, if it gets people reading, that's good, right?
    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flixy View Post
    It sounds like a rather shitty book, to be honest. But hey, if it gets people reading, that's good, right?
    I scowl with frustration at myself in the mirror. Damn my hair—it just won’t behave, and damn Katherine Kavanagh for being ill and subjecting me to this ordeal. I should be studying for my final exams, which are next week, yet here I am trying to brush my hair into submission. I must not sleep with it wet. I must not sleep with it wet. Reciting this mantra several times, I attempt, once more, to bring it under control with the brush. I roll my eyes in exasperation and gaze at the pale, brown-haired girl with blue eyes too big for her face staring back at me, and give up. My only option is to restrain my wayward hair in a ponytail and hope that I look semi-presentable.


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    How.. interesting.

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    It's a very vivid and realistic portrayal
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    Keep on keepin' the beat alive!

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    and here is Duke Nukem

    "In a field where an overlooked bug could cost millions, you want people who will speak their minds, even if they’re sometimes obnoxious about it."

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    You're also a fan of TFS?

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