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    Default Danish scientist Niels Harrit talks about WTC demolition



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    Oh, for fucks sake.
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    If the financial side of war on terror was fighting money laundering, which should have involved financial tightening and regulation, how is that druglords are laundering so much money in US and banking system is so non regulated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnaught View Post
    It was just a matter of time he posted this.
    Well Dread, you were there in NY. You may tell how reasonable or not is the argument of this guy. He is interviewed by some European news reporter. I might like your view. I do not use to fall for such theories, but this one really amazed me.
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    The guy is a chemist.
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    I think the definition of 'demolition' got stretched a bit there. It didn't use to mean; fly jetliners into a building to bring it down.

    Also, I don't think you can call it science if you decided upon the outcome before you started researching.
    Last edited by Hazir; 03-27-2010 at 02:15 AM.
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    What the fuck is this stupid shit doing in Debate and Discussion? Has all the discussion about sensible standards in here gone out the fucking window? Jesus.
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    newsflash!


    Danish scientist Niels Harrit is totally clueless about controlled demolition
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    On a side note, if you look closely at the images right before the collapse (and that is all that truthers seem to do all day and night), you can notice, thanks to the nice straight lines on the tower, that the outside walls are leaning inwards - a bit like this: )(. That means that the horizontal, load bearing steel bars were weakened and dragging the walls inside. Structural collapse, no demolition, and I didn't need 10 minutes of babbling on youtube for it.

    Of course, I got this info from the NIST which is part of the great conspiracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
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    Ahh of course, somebody disagreeing with someone else, who made idiotic claims you agree with, immediately makes them evil...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Ahh of course, somebody disagreeing with someone else, who made idiotic claims you agree with, immediately makes them evil...
    That and Timmy was my favorite mod in AtariCC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusions View Post
    Ahh of course, somebody disagreeing with someone else, who made idiotic claims you agree with, immediately makes them evil...
    I am just having hving a good time.
    Isn't this forum about saying harsh things in a friendly environment?
    The amazing thing is that people have not even watched it and they are judging it a priori.
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    Yeah, no one ever debunked controlled demolition of the WTC before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    I am just having hving a good time.
    Isn't this forum about saying harsh things in a friendly environment?
    The amazing thing is that people have not even watched it and they are judging it a priori.
    'We' rather seriously looked into these truth theories, and so far none of them had any merit. Now some new idiot comes telling the world that he has found proof for what is 'widely known anyway'; the WTC was demolished. That's not science that is looking for arguments leading up to your conclusion. And you still think we should take anything that man says serious?
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    I want to point out that at least 1150 architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation, including an inquiry into the possibility of explosives. I don't see why these professionals would put their reputations on the line if there weren't some substance to the idea.

    Whatever made the buildings fall is a matter of fact. Perhaps it would help to detach yourself for a moment from the emotional baggage of 9/11, and simply focus on the question of why the buildings fell? Don't worry about "conspiracies" or who did what. Just think about what could destroy the buildings in that particular way.
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    Gravity.
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    Alpha, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. You either believe in the 9/11 nutjob theories or you don't. You can't put forth these theories and then retreat behind "I was just playing around" when proven wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    The amazing thing is that people have not even watched it and they are judging it a priori.
    I'll make a two hour video detailing how September 11th was pulled off by a combination of several dozen pixies and leprechauns, along with a handful of angry kobolds. Would you watch the whole thing before considering it moronic, or just call it as it is from the get go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    I want to point out that at least 1150 architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation, including an inquiry into the possibility of explosives. I don't see why these professionals would put their reputations on the line if there weren't some substance to the idea.

    Whatever made the buildings fall is a matter of fact. Perhaps it would help to detach yourself for a moment from the emotional baggage of 9/11, and simply focus on the question of why the buildings fell? Don't worry about "conspiracies" or who did what. Just think about what could destroy the buildings in that particular way.
    Clearly one can go to university an idiot and come out still an idiot. That would explain why people would put their reputation - if they ever had one - on the line.

    As for what brought down the buildings, what about : 2 planes, a shitload of kerosine, explosive fire and ... last but not least.. gravity.
    Congratulations America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Clearly one can go to university an idiot and come out still an idiot. That would explain why people would put their reputation - if they ever had one - on the line.

    As for what brought down the buildings, what about : 2 planes, a shitload of kerosine, explosive fire and ... last but not least.. gravity.
    Do you know more than those architects and engineers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    Do you know more than those architects and engineers?
    Why should I? Every single time these people come out they do the same; they work from the premise that there was a demolition. From that alone one can conclude that they aren't engaging in sound science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazir View Post
    Why should I? Every single time these people come out they do the same; they work from the premise that there was a demolition. From that alone one can conclude that they aren't engaging in sound science.
    Oh I see. I must believe in your expert opinion, instead of 1150 idiots who studied and know more about buildings than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    Oh I see. I must believe in your expert opinion, instead of 1150 idiots who studied and know more about buildings than you.
    No, actually you could start to think and realise what science entails. Rather than believing and rearranging 'evidence' to support your believes. This man disqualified himself the moment he disclosed his methodology, which consisted of a believe in demolition and a search for proof of that. He was never interested in finding the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    Oh I see. I must believe in your expert opinion, instead of 1150 idiots who studied and know more about buildings than you.
    And why are you ignoring the views of other experts, most of them far better qualified than these morons? Cognitive dissonance at its best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    And why are you ignoring the views of other experts, most of them far better qualified than these morons? Cognitive dissonance at its best.
    I considered posting that, but I am better at exercising self-control than the rest of you.

    Hey, Dready-dear, weren't you going to suspend alpha for ad-spam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    And why are you ignoring the views of other experts, most of them far better qualified than these morons? Cognitive dissonance at its best.
    Enlighten me. What experts?

    Quote Originally Posted by littlelolligagged View Post
    I considered posting that, but I am better at exercising self-control than the rest of you. Hey, Dready-dear, weren't you going to suspend alpha for ad-spam?
    The fact that you do not like it does not mean it is spam.
    How about some suspension in the old Chinese Firewall style?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar81 View Post
    The fact that you do not like it does not mean it is spam.
    How about some suspension in the old Chinese Firewall style?
    No, this was ad-spam. And it should be a permaban, but whatever.
    We're stuck in a bloody snowglobe.

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